Looks like Tesla brought back the standard range Model S and X!

[SageBrush]

The arithmetic for Supercharger hopping in this car is pretty impressive:

I think the Tesla pack can average 200 kW for its bottom 50% SoC, so about 50 kWh for this 100 kWh pack. If 75 mph is 3 miles per kWh, then charge stops of 15 minutes every two hours (150 miles) of driving.

I'm tempted, although my wife is not inclined to spend that amount of money on *any* vehicle. I think I would, but I'm not a fan of buying low volume mass market cars.

 

[Tiger]

They'll never get their money back from that model though. They'd need to recoup more than $10k. I just don't see it happening.

Any money they get above the purchase price is a win, but it does expose the trend, of prices going down. Which is great for wider EV adoption.

 

[Watts_Up]

I wonder if Tesla would unlock the battery to full size in case of emengency, like this had been the case during some hurricanes in Florida?

Also, since the price of the Model S Standard Range is below $80k, would the $7,500 Federal Tax Credit be eligible ?

 

[Zuikkis]

Now just bring back the 7 seat option for MS and I'll start saving.

 

[Tiger]

I wonder if Tesla would unlock the battery to full size in case of emengency, like this had been the case during some hurricanes in Florida?

Also, since the price of the Model S Standard Range is below $80k, would the $7,500 Federal Tax Credit be eligible ?

Might require 4680 cells.

 

[CTruck_BMW]

Also, Tesla has announced another discounts ranging from $7,700-$9,600 USD on Model S and Model X vehicles sold in China....

 

[E90alex]

I wonder if Tesla would unlock the battery to full size in case of emengency, like this had been the case during some hurricanes in Florida?

Also, since the price of the Model S Standard Range is below $80k, would the $7,500 Federal Tax Credit be eligible ?

Sedans are $55k. SUVs and trucks are $80k.

 

[E90alex]

Might require 4680 cells.

4680 cells have nothing to do with anything

 

[Tiger]

4680 cells have nothing to do with anything

Not "anything". They are locally made so they qualify for incentives.

 

[E90alex]

Not "anything". They are locally made so they qualify for incentives.

2170 are also locally made. LFP is China made and Model 3 still qualifies for full federal tax credit.

There’s no way to fit a different battery cell in Model S/X without significant redesigning. 4680 is 1.5 cm taller than 18650.

4680 is not the magic answer to everything.

 

[henderrj]

I saw a headline that Tesla has confirmed range is software limited

Check their sources - store reps. Not terrifically reliable. Still possible, maybe probable. But I'll wait until one is spotted in the wild for confirmation.

 

[ucmndd]

Check their sources - store reps. Not terrifically reliable. Still possible, maybe probable. But I'll wait until one is spotted in the wild for confirmation.

For real.

Although that Sawyer Merritt muskhuffer that is probably Elon’s secret 11th child said so too and he’s about as close to official Tesla state media as you get now.

 

[theslimshadyist]

Why not just buy the LR then?

If they ever do an unlock it would probably cost $10k or more. Otherwise there would be no reason to buy the LR if you can buy the SR and unlock the missing range for less.

When they had the Model 3 SR that was unlockable to SR+, the upgrade was more than just buying the SR+ in the first place.

Well, it's a bit complicated but I've previously owned a MS Plaid, a Raven, and a P100D so I'm very familiar with the MS. I doubt that I would even need to unlock the SR based on my use case but it's just a security blanket that it could be done or when it's time to sell the vehicle. I don't really need a LR so the $10K savings on the front end is attractive to me.

To add more complexity into the equation, I don't have a vehicle at the moment and I'm really leaning towards the upcoming Highland as the potential first option. I want to see if the majority of the rumors actually end up coming to fruition before pulling the trigger on a replacement vehicle. Silly I know, but if the Highland is equipped with ventilated seats, ambient lighting, a larger battery, and a quicker 0-60 time, then I will def go in this direction.

 

[zoomer0056]

They'll never get their money back from that model though. They'd need to recoup more than $10k. I just don't see it happening.

It's free $ in a software locked ransomed battery. Pay the man, the man gets the $ and flips the software switch, get a month. Don't pay the man $, no $ is made.

 

[terranx]

It's free $ in a software locked ransomed battery. Pay the man, the man gets the $ and flips the software switch, get a month. Don't pay the man $, no $ is made.

Being an option to do that at all would heavily disincentivize buying the longer range version though since most of us do not need the full capacity the vast majority of the tome

 

[zoomer0056]

Being an option to do that at all would heavily disincentivize buying the longer range version though since most of us do not need the full capacity the vast majority of the tome

Really, it's not that serious. We're all just speculatively guessing in hypothetical ways.

 

[Tiger]

Now we know why Tesla introduced new pricing, it's not because of Lucid:

Volkswagen ID.7 Pro Package presales open starting at $61,479

The Volkswagen ID.7 Pro package is available to preorder at a starting price of $61,479. VW has high hopes for the ID.7 in the United States.

www.teslarati.com

I wonder when VW is going to make this as a wagon?

Volkswagen's Sexy Electric Wagon Finally Gets A Name

Unfortunately, the name isn't as pretty.

carbuzz.com

 

[tivoboy]

Now we know why Tesla introduced new pricing, it's not because of Lucid:

Volkswagen ID.7 Pro Package presales open starting at $61,479

The Volkswagen ID.7 Pro package is available to preorder at a starting price of $61,479. VW has high hopes for the ID.7 in the United States.

www.teslarati.com

I wonder when VW is going to make this as a wagon?

Volkswagen's Sexy Electric Wagon Finally Gets A Name

Unfortunately, the name isn't as pretty.

carbuzz.com

It’s not europe unless its a “vagen”.