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And you think wives are cheap to maintain?
I can promise anybody, they are NOT cheap to maintain. But good fun trying...
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I can promise anybody, they are NOT cheap to maintain. But good fun trying...
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Got to laugh really...
My Vauxhall Petrol Car is £250 per year to insure, and £165 to Tax.
Tesla M3P is £1350 per year to insure, and £0 to Tax (it used to be £750 when brand new)
Hmmm....
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That's why I bought a Tesla Model 3 Performance...
... when you can find me an ICE Car that can do 0-60mph in 3.1 seconds, has no formal Servicing Costs and doesn't have 2000 moving parts in a race to be the weakest link.
Then I'll start moaning...
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Well, literally nothing has beaten me at the traffic lights in 2 years I've owned the car... except my Wife.
So forget the numbers. That's fun enough for me... does exactly what it says on the tin (as far as I'm concerned).
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But I will also add ... when we get to the weekend, which car do we both pick when visiting family???
Skoda Enyaq VRS Coupe 80kWh
It's slower, it's heavier, it's bigger...
But it's way more comfortable, more economical, more luxury, and a very nice car to cruise around in.
Tesla stays at home plugged into the Powerwalls
Skoda Enyaq VRS Coupe 80kWh
It's slower, it's heavier, it's bigger...
But it's way more comfortable, more economical, more luxury, and a very nice car to cruise around in.
Tesla stays at home plugged into the Powerwalls
I just don't find EV's fun or engaging to drive. Yes, blisteringly quick acceleration, but there is no getting away from the sheer mass, detached steering feel and lack of involvement.
For driving for the joy of it, I'll take my mid-engined, howling petrol car all day, every day....even if it does take 5 seconds to get to 60mph.
It's also massively cheaper to run than a Tesla, but each to their own.
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Yeah, I get it. But I have tinnitus now from decades of riding high performance and off road motorcycles.
If you want sound, try Akrapovic with any inline 4 or Termignoni on a V2 Ducati Panigale, or titanium Arrow on a Triumph Triple. Heaven on engine overrun, and so visceral.
I found cars absolutely boring at one time... and lost interest completely. Done a LOT of track days. It was Tesla that got me interested in them again, and yes they have their weight, but driven well they're bloody quick still.
But I've had 30 years of it... so like my peace and quiet now
...But it's not just the relative peace and quiet (which is fine)..…I just don't see any of the Tesla's as great (or even good) drivers cars.Yeah, I get it. But I have tinnitus now from decades of riding high performance and off road motorcycles.
If you want sound, try Akrapovic with any inline 4 or Termignoni on a V2 Ducati Panigale, or titanium Arrow on a Triumph Triple. Heaven on engine overrun, and so visceral.
But I've had 30 years of it... like my peace and quiet now
Don't get me wrong, of course they are highly competent in many ways....just not big on 'fun'.
I find S/Xs to be incredibly competent for their size/weight, and on public roads they are far more capable than most of us having driving skills to push any where near their mechanical grip limits. 2-3 second of WOT even in our 75D X essentially is boarding on reckless driving on our B roads when you consider the need to be able to react to other road users around the next blind corner.
If you want 'fun' on public roads that involves road feedback, some element of skill, some real consequences of pushing past the grip limits, no family car really delivers anything close to the 'fun' other wheeled transport can deliver
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The rest of the population who value their hearing and are not that keen on hearing loud exhausts would appreciate it if you didn’t…
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If you want 'fun' on public roads that involves road feedback, some element of skill, some real consequences of pushing past the grip limits, no family car really delivers anything close to the 'fun' other wheeled transport can deliver
....and no other wheeled transport does so much to remove the joy of driving cars than those!
(We live close to the London-Brighton cycle route....once a year, fair enough, but there rarely seems to be a weekend during the summer months when some organisation or other isn't running their own event).
Try them, you might like it. I suppose it depends on what you class as 'joy', for me there has to be a real risk of something going wrong, let's face it the TC, safety of Teslas mean they require the skill of a toddler to go fast, and if do end up hitting the laws of physics......2ton+ of metal doing most likely 3 figure speeds going out of control, not for me those risks are too big!!
On a pedal bike though, it amazing what literally can stop you in your tracks or how small error of judgment makes themselves felt!
If you really want understand what 'road feel' is literally no car comes close
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