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Manufacturing (MFG) Plates

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  1. apacheguy

    apacheguy Sig 255, VIN 320

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    Why do they exist? Why the need to discriminate between a consumer and a manufacturer on a license plate? Do they pay different registration fees?
     
  2. GSP

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    I think one reason is to allow manufacturers to drive prototypes, which have not been type approved (safety, emissions, etc.) for public use yet, on public roads.

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  3. Max*

    Max* Autopilot != Autonomous

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    I'm not sure that's the only reason, otherwise it'd be mostly limited to the headquarters. I saw a Model S with MFG plates (yes manufacturer; not dealer) in the Dedham, MA SC a few weeks ago.
     
  4. JST

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    Tesla uses them on a variety of corporate-owned cars, including service loaners. Most auto companies don't, for the simple reason that most auto companies don't directly provide service loaners. States also issue a variety of "dealer" tags, which dealers will sometimes use on service loaners.

    MFG and DLR plates are transferable between cars--having these plates means that you don't have to separately title and register each vehicle. That's handy when you have a fleet of vehicles that you haven't sold yet, and which may not all need to be driven at the same time. Provides a great deal of flexibility.
     
  5. cpa

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    As I understand California's rules, dealers and manufacturers are licensed by the DMV. Accordingly, they receive dealer or manufacturer license plates for the autos that they use in their normal courses of business. These plates are transferable to any vehicle owned by the dealer or manufacturer. These cars have no "pink slip," as they are not registered with DMV. The plates identify the dealer/manufacturer license number, so law enforcement knows that there will be no registration or proof of insurance forthcoming should a driver be pulled over. This is also why sales of these autos qualify as "new" car sales, as the vehicles have not yet been registered with DMV.

    Here is the link to the CVC: http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/cgi-bin/displaycode?section=veh&group=11001-12000&file=11700-11740
     
  6. CHG-ON

    CHG-ON Still in love after all these miles

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    They can put them on any car in their inventory. In the US, the plate for consumers is permanently attached to the VIN of the vehicle until it is officially reassigned, which means going to the DMV (ug) and officially transferring it to another vehicle. It is done so that dealers can allow people to test drive any car on their lot and the plate, if needed, can be tracked back to the dealer, who is the legal owner of the vehicle until sold and therefore liable for any damages, to an extent.

    I have a plate on a car that I sold that I wanted back. I now need to find out how to not have that plate retired and put back into the mix for others to take. Because I expect to use it again at some point, so I want to continue to own it.
     
  7. TEG

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    CA Department of Motor Vehicles Occupational License Plates

    I expect there are some guidelines on how the vehicle is supposed to be used when running on those plates.
    Evaluating prototypes is one thing, but driving for years on a production vehicle for personal use is probably frowned upon.


    Here someone actually "bought" some:
    caifornia MFG license plates - Corvette Forum
    I assume it wouldn't be legal for someone other than an active, registered, manufacturer to use them for business purposes.
    Can they use them on vehicles from another manufacturer?

    I wonder if the manufacturer has to carry some sort of blanket insurance policy to cover in case any accidents happen with their cars running on MFR plates?
     
  8. cpa

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    Good questions, TEG! One would hope that Tesla's in-house counsel has weighed in on the matter, and has established the lawful use of these plates. Service vehicles are likely those cars that are driven by management or on Tesla business, and those must be registered and receive the customary 7-digit license plate, since the loaner I received had manufacturer plates. Doubtless Tesla has a broadly-written liability policy, (and I am neither lawyer nor insurance expert) but I would presume that vehicles with manufacturer plates would be covered by their liability policies, and not automobile insurance policies that registered owners are required to have.

    The vehicle code definition of manufacturer also includes representatives from the manufacturer that are based in California, even though they do not actually manufacture automobiles here. So, perhaps the Corvette with manufacturer plates in the link you shared belongs to one of the GM executives. (I recall years ago that GM had a corporate office in Van Nuys or thereabouts.)

    I could be wrong about all the above. Perhaps we should find a friendly Chippie and offer to buy him/her lunch to get the true answers to these questions!
     
  9. FlasherZ

    FlasherZ Sig Model S + Sig Model X + Model 3 Resv

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    I suspect that Tesla would apply for self-insurance in California.

    In IL, DL plates are used for service loaners, test drive vehicles, and dealer demonstrators (including those driven by the owners/managers when not "on duty"). While I do believe that IL has a set of MFG plates, all the Tesla cars I've seen based in Chicago use DL plates. Cost per year is $45 for the master set and $13 for each duplicate set, per year (in addition to the $1,000 business license cost for dealers in Illinois).
     

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