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Biden might lose to Trump worse than Hillary did. Trump showed us that people are tired of mainstream politicians.

Another way to read it is both parties put up candidates who were unliked by the majority of the population. Most people voted for the party they usually vote for. The Democrats have a baked in presidential year majority, so the Democratic candidate won the popular vote by a large margin. In a few states a concerted effort to keep the Democratic vote down worked combined with a campaign to convince some disaffected, poorly educated white voters to come out and vote Republican. These are people who either had given up voting, or were unenthusiastic Democratic voters. This small handful of voters made Trump president.

Biden is much more liked than Hillary ever was and especially in swing states the Democrats need to win. For the relative handful of swing voters who actually make the difference in electing the president what gets them to vote one way or the other often has much more to do with whether they like the candidate or not. And if they dislike both, they vote for who they dislike the least. It's hard for policy wonks to get their mind around that, but most Americans (and most people in all democracies) are not policy wonks.

But the constitution doesn't care about the popular vote.


Not that straight forward. Would end up in supreme court.

Bloomberg - Are you a robot?

BTW, its not that equal amount would have to come from each state - but it needs to be proportional to population. Anyway as the article makes clear - there are contradictory provisions in the constitution and case law.

I misremembered that detail about being proportional. It would still be unbalanced.

We have laws on the books that are unconstitutional, like the Patriot Act. But laws that are questionable constitutionality often get challenged. The ones that end up in front of the Supreme Court are those that are brought either by lawyers willing to take the fight to the mat pro bono or those who have the resources to mount a Supreme Court fight and have standing to bring a case. In the case of the wealth tax you have a class of people with both the resources and standing to challenge the law's constitutionality.

The conservative majority on SCOTUS isn't as pro-Republican as most people fear, but it is pro-business and pro-wealthy people. It would almost certainly shoot down any wealth tax.

Are we living in the same country ?

40% of population supports Trump. Does that look like lack of galvanized base ?

What a lot of people don't understand is that Republicans hear a completely different set of "facts" from their preferred media. All the nonsensical, illogical, incoherent things Republicans on the impeachment related hearings have one goal. To act as soundbites for their media. It is most likely that Republicans think the impeachment hearings have completely exonerated Trump but the evil Democrats are still impeaching him - not the truth where not one person testifying said anything to support Trump's case (which itself is not clear).

It is impossible to underestimate the level of information a disengaged person has. There are people in UK who actually said they want a change - so they are voting for Tories (even though Tories are in power for several years now).

Yes, the disengaged know very little about what's really going on.

I've looked at the internals of several presidential approval polls. Trump's 40% favorability is about 20% strong favorable and about 20% some favorable. His 50-55% unfavorable is almost all strongly unfavorable. One poll I looked at recently asked those who said they were favorable to Trump how much of his policies they liked. Only about 15% liked all or almost all of his policies. There was a fairly high percentage of people who didn't like quite a bit of his policies, but are favorable because of at least some things important to them they think he's done right.

The poll didn't ask, but for most of those people it's the economy. There are quite a few American, mostly low information, who answer those favorability questions based on what's happening in their own life. And for most of those people, their #1 issues are financial. If the economy is doing well, they answer favorable in those polls.

Historically presidential approval has tracked the economy fairly tightly. Political scientists who have studied the trends have said that a normal president would have about a 60% approval rating right now just on economic figures. Trump is under performing the economy by about 20%. Normal presidents usually have about a 40-45% approval rating during recessions, all else being equal. If we go into recession next year, that could drop Trump's approval ratings into the 20s as the "somewhat approve" people switch their opinions.

Normally the president has a lot less impact on the economy than people think. And what impact the president does have has a 2-4 year lag. Trump has been enjoying the economy created by Obama. The impacts from Trump's policy changes have been slow to appear, but they are coming. The Midwest farm sector is in a deep recession now. It contributed to big Democratic gains in Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Iowa in 2018.

Trump has also destabilized the Middle East and a war that stops the flow of oil is possible. While those of us championing moving away from oil would like to see a decline in supply, it would have a major impact on the economy.

Another thing that could destabilize the entire world economy is Brexit. One of the reasons Teresa May couldn't get it done was the experts estimated that a fast Brexit would range from economically bad to catastrophic. Boris Johnson is gung ho to leave the EU regardless of the agreement with the EU and he now has the majority to do it. The UK may do OK with Brexit, but there is a good chance that Scotland and possibly Wales will have a vote to leave the UK and join the EU. In Scotland it is almost certain to win.

Chaos in the UK economy would likely have ripples throughout the world economy. They are a G-7 economy and any of the G-7 taking a serious economic hit would hurt the rest.

The election pundits have been saying that the chances of anyone winning the presidency in effectively a one on one race (not a scenario like 1992 with H Ross Perot) is marginal at 47% (what Trump got) and goes to zero around 42%. Trump is very unlikely to get better than 47%. In presidential re-elections, the incumbent almost always gets their approval rating in vote percentage. GW Bush and Obama got almost exactly their approval rating on election day.

Yes, but why would you ask ?

BTW, that is one more anti-democratic thing. Why would anyone need to register to vote ? Makes zero sense. Just one more way the elites keep the poor people from voting.

A lot of states, including the entire west coast are having government agencies pretty much automatically register people to vote. Washington state has more state agencies doing it than just about any other state. But if you look at the list of states doing it, it's almost all blue states.
Automatic Voter Registration

Why? High turnout almost always favors Democrats and so Republicans do all they can to suppress the vote.

Don’t understand your response.

My point was that the Democrats have a shot at winning the Presidency and all of Congress with authority.

If this were to happen no one should be surprised at the idiocies that may take place in the name of a ‘mandate’ . Including a wealth tax.

A big win by Democrats could open the door for a wealth tax, but it will be challenged in court and it will almost certainly lose.

The next administration will be bogged down fixing Trump's messes. There would probably be quite a few Democrats in Congress who would be OK with trying a wealth tax, but would want to wait until the fires were put out which would delay it for a couple of years at least.
 
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A big win by Democrats could open the door for a wealth tax, but it will be challenged in court and it will almost certainly lose.
The ONLY way any of these messes get fixed - climate change or healthcare or campaign finance or … - is to pack the courts.

The next administration will be bogged down fixing Trump's messes. There would probably be quite a few Democrats in Congress who would be OK with trying a wealth tax, but would want to wait until the fires were put out which would delay it for a couple of years at least.
No - next president will try new legislation within days of taking oath. They have limited time to get big legislations through. That is why Warren's "M4A in 3rd year" is such BS.

Nobody has ever squandered the opportunity for big, fundamental change as Obama did in 2009. Given deep recession - big structural changes were possible. Dems had big majority in Congress and 60 votes in the Senate.
 
Yes, but why would you ask ?

BTW, that is one more anti-democratic thing. Why would anyone need to register to vote ? Makes zero sense. Just one more way the elites keep the poor people from voting.
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We have to register to vote, because that is how the game is played, at least in the US
Undemocratic? Obviously.
I really like automatic registration.
There are obstacles everywhere
There was a “poll tax” when I was young, administered to keep the “in crowd” in power.
I grew up in the northern part of the south.
So, at present, the only path I see is registering folks to vote, and supporting education for all, as much as possible.
 
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We have to register to vote, because that is how the game is played, at least in the US
Undemocratic? Obviously.
I really like automatic registration.
There are obstacles everywhere
There was a “poll tax” when I was young, administered to keep the “in crowd” in power.
I grew up in the northern part of the south.
So, at present, the only path I see is registering folks to vote, and supporting education for all, as much as possible.
It's a holdover from the pre-universal-sufferage times. "You a man?" "You white?" "You a land-owner?". Can't let just anybody into that booth.
 
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I'm a big fan of complex adaptive systems theory though not enough brain-width to follow the underpinnings of the underlying math. (Cf Home | Santa Fe Institute)

One of the surprising economic revisions includes the effect of size has been underestimated. Here is evidence that is scary.

Prime Leverage: How Amazon Wields Power in the Technology World

I can't see how it might work, but there may be similar tactics for spreading false information by the Russians, say, or ripping off FiveThirtyEight technology.
 
It's a holdover from the pre-universal-sufferage times. "You a man?" "You white?" "You a land-owner?". Can't let just anybody into that booth.
Registration is only part of the problem. If Millennials voted in the same % as boomers, GOP would win hardly any state. In '18 42% of millennials and 64% of boomers voted.

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Registration is only part of the problem. If Millennials voted in the same % as boomers, GOP would win hardly any state. In '18 42% of millennials and 64% of boomers voted.

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That's why the Republicans are doing everything they can to tilt the system their way including packing the courts, playing every game they can to get electoral advantage including courting the US's enemies, and any other trick they can think of. Trump's victory in 2016 was unexpected because the people who actually pay attention to these things in the party know that the Republicans are either going to have to change with the demographics, or become a marginalized party. They expected 2012 to be the last time the whites focused campaigning had any chance of success. Ted Cruz and Marko Rubio thought 2016 was their year. Trump demonstrated that with enough rigging of the system they had at least one last presidency left.

Demographics will catch up with them. My biggest concern is that I hope the US hasn't devolved into a dictatorship by the time it happens. The courts are holding the line thus far, but the constitution is on thin ice.
 
Honestly this is good news. Thank you for that.

There are very good ways to raise taxes and revenues without resorting to a wealth tax.
The US doesn't need to raise revenues. USD is a fiat currency, and as long as value is created by printing money - that means keeping the money lower in the economic strata - inflation shouldn't be a problem. (Additionally, USD being the basis of the global economy makes it even harder for inflation to be a problem.)

The problem the US has is wealth concentration - the money trickles up, and its value is lost as the wealth is hoarded.

Income taxes - up to and including 100% brackets as necessary - can help with this, but don't do anything about existing wealth hoards.

There are ways to mitigate the damage a wealth tax can cause, though, for cases where someone's wealth is locked up in the value of their company. That concentration of wealth is still dangerous, but you really don't want to disperse an American company to vulture capitalists or to foreign interests. The fairest way, IMO, is to encourage transferring that wealth to workers for the company - this means that they directly receive more of the benefits of their labor.

Additionally, measures could be put into place to tie a wealth tax to, say, the wealth Gini coefficient - as the wealth Gini coefficient goes up, the wealth tax significantly increases, and as it goes down, it decreases. This would create a feedback loop that should create a more stable distribution of wealth.
 
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The US doesn't need to raise revenues. USD is a fiat currency, and as long as value is created by printing money - that means keeping the money lower in the economic strata - inflation shouldn't be a problem. (Additionally, USD being the basis of the global economy makes it even harder for inflation to be a problem.)

The problem the US has is wealth concentration - the money trickles up, and its value is lost as the wealth is hoarded.

Income taxes - up to and including 100% brackets as necessary - can help with this, but don't do anything about existing wealth hoards.

There are ways to mitigate the damage a wealth tax can cause, though, for cases where someone's wealth is locked up in the value of their company. That concentration of wealth is still dangerous, but you really don't want to disperse an American company to vulture capitalists or to foreign interests. The fairest way, IMO, is to encourage transferring that wealth to workers for the company - this means that they directly receive more of the benefits of their labor.

Additionally, measures could be put into place to tie a wealth tax to, say, the wealth Gini coefficient - as the wealth Gini coefficient goes up, the wealth tax significantly increases, and as it goes down, it decreases. This would create a feedback loop that should create a more stable distribution of wealth.

Printing money in the first place is what causes wealth disparity.

The printed money goes first to the rich and well connected who can profit by watching their asset (stocks and real estate) prices go up while the poor and middle class suffer the ill effects of this inflation in higher prices for food, energy, and rent.

Over time, this creates massive disparities in wealth.

The thing you advocate for his exactly what is causing the problem.
 
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Printed money need not go directly to the rich - it can go towards subsidies for the poor.

Now, the trick is when the rich just raise prices because the market can bear them. Price controls can help there, as well as just taxing it right back out and sending it back down to the poor.
 
Oh - we are talking about 2016 election. BTW, Pew says the numbers were a little lower for Trump.

Are you looking for approval ratings ?
Nope.
I’m 71 and suspect the polls are skewing against the orange narcissist/7 enhanced gall bladder disease symptoms
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Tomorrow night will most likely be a significant data point with rallies
 
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