Tommy59
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In Austria the 100€ are treated as a deposit. See the attached screenshot.
Yes, it's the same in Sweden. My deposit was extracted from the final payment.
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In Austria the 100€ are treated as a deposit. See the attached screenshot.
At this maximum capacity and with the last 2020.48.12.1 update the car shows 545km at 100% SoC. Exactly the EPA advertised numbers.
Even with EPA, EPA says 353 miles which is 565km not 545. Am I missing something?
If this is the case, it is a "dirty" trick from Tesla, but makes sense number wise.How about the 4.5% Buffer? Then you have your EPA range number. The E3D Long Range shows EPA + Buffer. E5D shows EPA incl. Buffer. Without any degradation.
If you got the latest SW update then they're supposedly taking more variables into account.Back to the battery discussion... I’ve read almost all of the 80 something pages of this thread and am wondering why my 2021 M3P collected on 18 Dec shows a full battery indicating roundabout 300 miles (that’s both extrapolated at 100% charge)... anyone else have this figure? I was expecting somewhere close to 353.
I called Tesla and feel like they fobbed me off stating that the range next to the battery symbol is impacted by many variables... that’s not what this thread seems to suggest.
Thanks, that’s reassuring. I get that the number doesn’t really mean anything and I generally don’t display it, just concerned it was way lower than other M3s.If you got the latest SW update then they're supposedly taking more variables into account.
Also, the 353 miles is the WLTP number, the rated range in the car is EPA, and subtracted the buffer (below 0% SoC).
It's the same for my car (collected 22nd Dec), 305 miles at 100%
The range on EVs are usually like the average consumption on ICE vehicles, the listed number is what you get under ideal conditions.
I think it's within the accepted range.Thanks, that’s reassuring. I get that the number doesn’t really mean anything and I generally don’t display it, just concerned it was way lower than other M3s.
How about the 4.5% Buffer? Then you have your EPA range number. The E3D Long Range shows EPA + Buffer. E5D shows EPA incl. Buffer. Without any degradation.
Also have a look at this discussion:Back to the battery discussion... I’ve read almost all of the 80 something pages of this thread and am wondering why my 2021 M3P collected on 18 Dec shows a full battery indicating roundabout 300 miles (that’s both extrapolated at 100% charge)... anyone else have this figure? I was expecting somewhere close to 353.
I called Tesla and feel like they fobbed me off stating that the range next to the battery symbol is impacted by many variables... that’s not what this thread seems to suggest.
Yeah, I saw that and hoping that isn’t the case! Thanks for the link.Also have a look at this discussion:
2021 Model 3 - Charge data
It seems like there are two types of batteries for long range and performance at the moment...
Cheers, I’m at Tesla having the charge port fixed next week so will try and get some sense out of a technician and compare to other M3s they have (that I can look at).I think it's within the accepted range.
Can be hard to get used to if you're coming from cars that don't limit max charge by default. "Missing" 50 miles because of optimistic numbers seems really bad, but when one of the Norwegian motor magazines (called Motor) tested EVs the numbers were pretty good. Here is a (google) translated version:
Google Translate
Specifically for the TM3:
Google Translate
Please let us know if you manage to learn somethingCheers, I’m at Tesla having the charge port fixed next week so will try and get some sense out of a technician and compare to other M3s they have (that I can look at).
Interesting, thanks. He also talks about rated range and constants... this doesn’t appear to be how my displayed range is calculated (~300 at 100% - 2021 M3P)For anyone wondering what types of batteries there are in the Model 3 LR and P in Europe.
You have a M3P, that is a special case. The video is mostly about the LR AWD. It seems the M3Ps got the bigger 80+ Panasonic batteries, but might not be all.Interesting, thanks. He also talks about rated range and constants... this doesn’t appear to be how my displayed range is calculated (~300 at 100% - 2021 M3P)