Feels like European cars drew a very short straw these last few quarters. I’m thinking about cancelling/delaying my order until the whole thing is more fair and I can get a car with the larger battery. Or might as well wait for a Performance model.
Mistakes in the German papers are most likely mistakes in copying from the COC which I have. And the COC is an EC COC so true for all of the EU of course. But I do wonder which door trims it will have
...We have given up on official ratings a long time ago. It's like the fossil world- complete fiction! Over here in Germany with an unlimited autobahn on the doorstep we prefer to move at the same speed as the traffic in the rush hour which means you can take any official figure and halve it (range) or double it (consumption UK/US) or halve it (consumption EU!) (You get what I mean!) Before I ordered a Tesla the best alternative that came somewhere close to what we hoped was the Taycan but I don't like the price for something Porsche themselves said will have an updated battery/tech at some point -outdating an expensive car. At least with Tesla there is a well proven trail of enhancements to existing products as they unlock more tech and occasionally range. And it seems there's something left if you accidentally get to 0%. And the M3 price seems to be a good way to start the electric adventure. If I reliably see over 300km in my new M3LR 82Kw in everyday use I will be happy as the only other car which achieved that our testing was the Taycan 4S. Fortunately my better half who has a lead foot on the Autobahn (she's German, I'm a Brexit refugee) has the same view about range fiction....
VIN 937 is a Refresh / 2021 -> If delivered to a US customer this should always be the "old" Panasonic pack with 77.8kWh that has been available in the car at least since beginning of 2019. Not sure how acurate that Wikipedia text is about a change in the cells by the end of 2018...
You might want to read up on this post again. You will never get close to the EPA rated range...
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The COC doesnt list the battery capacity though. The data for field 22 is coming from two different databases, soon only one.Mistakes in the German papers are most likely mistakes in copying from the COC which I have. And the COC is an EC COC so true for all of the EU of course. But I do wonder which door trims it will have
The Taycan 4S can barely do 300km on the german highway. And only if you don't ever go above 150km/h. At least my drive test. If you drive it like you should, it gets you to about 200km from 100-0%. My avg consumption was 39kWh/100km at around 160km/h avg(200-250 max where possible)
Of course you are right about the COC-it only states the 'Variant' and Date of Manufacture in this context. Which would seem to indicate the later 82 battery. The Zulassungsbescheinigung Teil 1 seems to be the only place (apart from here!) where it says 82KWH.VIN 937 is a Refresh / 2021 -> If delivered to a US customer this should always be the "old" Panasonic pack with 77.8kWh that has been available in the car at least since beginning of 2019. Not sure how acurate that Wikipedia text is about a change in the cells by the end of 2018...
You might want to read up on this post again. You will never get close to the EPA rated range...
MASTER THREAD: 2021 Model 3 - Charge data, battery discussion etc
Tell me again how I get 580 km when the 100% charge only ever shows 549...
The COC doesnt list the battery capacity though. The data for field 22 is coming from two different databases, soon only one.
The KBA is currently investigating at which point these mistakes were made.
- KBA's own database that is built with data provided by the manufacturers.
- COC IVI Database (the future main/only source) that gets its data directly from the manufacturers.
Interesting. I tried the 4S 3x with both the smaller and larger battery packs. Admittedly it was fairly busy but I didn't drive it slower than my current fossil cars and on each occasion had it at the limiter at least once. One test was on summers and 2 were on winter tyres. I tried hard not to make allowances for it being electric. I think that for the larger pack - unless it is 'just' autobahn - 350km is not far off. For a long autobahn trip I would agree that it would be less but without an extended test I can't say how much less. Sitting at 200km/h the range would seem to be less than 200km though from the Nextmove videos. I really like the Taycan (I tried hard to make the case work for me) but the price/range/infrastructure compromise seems off to me and for a first venture into electric cars the M3LR seems a pretty low cost way to try it all out. I remain open minded.
I am also confused about this. Is there even a confirmed model 3 LR in US that has the 82kwh battery?
TBD. Read the last few pages here I think. Seems likely it will be built with it, a CARB test with it looks like it may have been done already, so it’s a question of whether Tesla opens up the range. Probably vehicles delivered this quarter will be built with them. But it’s possible not all will be - and it’s possible none will have the extra range enabled even if they all have the new battery. Very hard to say, because it depends on what Tesla thinks is best for maximizing revenue. And as we know, what happens in the US does not necessarily match what happens in Europe and elsewhere.
I don't think there were any deliveries in the states yet. But Tesla hasn't updated the EPA on the website so who knows, probably not.
Arrive in Europe tomorrow and I suppose a week or tow after that in Germany?
It is if your ZB1 says E3LR in D.2, which you have confirmed previously.
14th - 17th of May are the first delivery dates currently stated by Tesla to their customers.
mine is VIN958 with built date 17 april, the seller asure it has the new 614km range. hope it´s true!
