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Minor Summon Crash

Discussion in 'Model S: Driving Dynamics' started by RedSoxFan18, Feb 2, 2016.

  1. RedSoxFan18

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    #1 RedSoxFan18, Feb 2, 2016
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    So I've been using summon regularly for 4 weeks or so, pretty much using it exclusively to park in the garage and pull out in the morning. My garage is a bit narrow so I really like summon since it makes sure I don't bump the doors. Just parked the car 10 minutes ago and it failed to stop upon entering my garage. It was an unusual summon in general. The car pulled up to the garage and opened the door as usual. There was a long delay before the car started to pull into the garage, in fact I thought the summon aborted but then after about a 10 second pause the car started to pull into the garage. That was a little more steering wheel action than normal. Then the car stopped about a foot shorter than usual. Then 3-4 second after it stops the car started forward again and ran into my big rolling mechanic tool box at the very end of the garage. It has always stopped about a foot short of that spot every other time I have used summon. Fortunately there does not appear to be any damage - although the license plate that used to be vertical does seem to be leaning back a little towards the nose cone. I guess I may have to be ready to abort the summon in the future. All of this was done with the FOB. In general I don't use the app.
     
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    Email Tesla with this summary and the approximate time that it happened. I'm sure they have a few engineers there that would love to take a peek at your car's logs to see if they can determine what went wrong.
     
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    Oh geez. Another one?
     
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    If I've kept up enough with all these threads, side-bars and sometimes off-track comments in many of them, that makes 3 Summon "crashes" reported on TMC to-date. I guess I try to keep a perspective that generally only well-meaning enthusiasts, or newbies that have an axe to grind or want to create some sort of social media frenzy end up really posting on forums like TMC. Many more owners and people read only. I'm not dissing the OP, you, or any of us -- just saying, posts here of issues are likely a minority of the true total of owner experiences, and are not a representative population we can draw conclusions from.

    I'm sorry the OP had a problem. I hope as has been suggested the OP has formally reported this to Tesla, and that the OP, like all Tesla Owners, pay attention and stay ready 100% of the time to take over with all BETA implementations Tesla is providing. If not, well... I'll let you-all fill in the blank what we've seen occur, or could happen because owners become complacent treating works-in-progress as something absolutely bullet-proof which Beta code never is...
     
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    #5 RedSoxFan18, Feb 3, 2016
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    I don't have a direct email to tech support (not sure [email protected] is appropriate as it seems like it is more for folks needing assistance) but if someone has one I'd be happy to email them. Before I posted here I posted this through the "contact us" section of teslamotors.com. No axe to grind here just sharing unusual experiences hoping to help others. Staying ready 100% of the time up till the very end is the important, even when the car is not moving. My car had stopped in the position in normally stops and I started to put my FOB back in the case before I heard the sound of the car shifting to park and the brakes engaging - at least I assume that is the sound I'm hearing. If I had kept my thumb of the roof of the FOB until hearing that sound I would have been able to stop the car the instant I noticed it resume moving. I suspect it just an interesting co-incidence but summon aborted on the way out of my garage this morning. Backed up, opened the garage door, and aborted.
     
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    [email protected] is the direct email, although IIRC that Contact web form should get to the same place. My experience has been they generally respond within 24 hours.

    Thanks for posting your encounter here. I know others like myself appreciate the heads-up, and I'm just glad there wasn't any damage somewhere. Also ensuring everyone reports problems directly to Tesla is the only way we have to make them aware of growing numbers of problems needing resolution, so I for one appreciate your doing that for all of us. You've definitely got something odd going on. Be sure you're following the other Summon threads around TMC -- various problems & scenarios, some with solutions, yet others with definite anomalies needing correction.
     
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    Perhaps. I have not personally heard or seen reference to that, and My Tesla Contacts still shows what I suggested for non-emergencies.
     
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    I received an email today -

    "[FONT=Calibri, sans-serif]Thank you for contacting Tesla Motors Technical Support. We apologize for any inconvenience this may have caused. I have created a concern for your issue with Summon and sent it to the Boston-Watertown Service Center. A member from the Service Center should be in contact with you shortly."[/FONT]

    [FONT=Calibri, sans-serif]I have not spoken to them yet but I'll update the thread when I have.


    [/FONT]
     
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    Anyone else seeing the irony in all of this?
     
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    Must have gone over my head, what's the irony?
     
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    He summoned a crash?
     
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    I saw this article today about a quick update to Summon to stop the car if the fob is dropped or finger is removed from the phone.

    Tesla to Update Self-Parking Feature Due to Safety Concern » AutoGuide.com News

    I would also suggest adding if the car gets out of FOB reach. I was at someones house the other day and the person I parked behind needed to leave. I used the Summon feature to back it up so they could get out, but had to move a bit closer to stop the Summon when it had moved far enough. The FOB seemed to be out of range to stop the Summon. It happened fast, and I was able to stop it quickly, but it scared me for a split second.
     
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    Sounds like a reasonable change. I had my situation happen again, the car stopped at the normal location and the started to pull forward. I was ready this time so there was no bump. I've contact Tesla twice on it and have yet to hear back from the local SC.
     
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    He may be referring to the "electric" car hitting the "mechanic's" tool chest...
     
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    Erm. No :-(

    Give us a hint?
     
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    Not sure if that was what he meant but it is certainly Ironic that I own a mechanics tool chest. I'm pretty useless with tools. It was a very nice gift from mother in law, she just forgets I don't have the same skills as her husband.
     
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    The direction is to have the summon feature work only with a smartphone in the future, where you have to hold your finger on a control on the phone for the car to move (at act as a "dead mans switch." The fob operation on this is supposedly to be disabled in future updates.
     
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    Have you checked if all the sensors are clean (nothing there to stop them functioning)? Strange it would stop and then start over.
     
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    If you can replicate this, can you stay in the car, maybe record the dashboard with a camera?
     

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