Wall connector is good if you have two Teslas as well. Charge one up when you get home from work and then swap out for the other vehicle when you go to bed.
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Mobile Charger no longer included
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buddhafree
2022 MYP
The car came with 120v 15amp connector only. Other adapters were not supplied (besides J1772). Each costs from $35 to $45.
We have about a dozen Tesla owners in our nerghborhood subdivision. Every single one of us charge at home in our garage. I call BS on this “statistics show very little usage”. I bet the actual number is closer to 70% of owners charge at home. The NEMA 14-50 (240v dryer outlet) capability should be supplied with every car. Isn’t the charger actually built into the car? That would mean the cable is just a connector, not a charger. The wall charger is something else. This is just greed!
There's another advantage to using the WC: in the past, it's been important to exercise all three 16A controllers in the PCS, so that if one fails, you get an alert that it has failed. There was someone who was only charging at 32A and had a single 16A controller failure and didn't realize it until the second 16A controller failed; by then, the warranty had expired on that car: Power Conversion System (PCS) failure
OmbreCake
MYLR5 Blue/Black Gemini | No Tow | No FSD
In order to come to this conclusion, Tesla likely asked the question in a different way, like “how many people use the mobile adapter to charge when traveling”. I don’t believe for a moment that 80% of new and existing owners have the Tesla Wall charger installed. It provides negligible performance increase over the mobile connector, and hardwired installation is more expensive than having a 240 installed. Either Tesla is having trouble sourcing components or this is a simple money grab and someone had to invent numbers to justify it. Personally, I’d have been less insulted if they just said “Due to component shortages, the mobile connector will no longer be included with purchase”. Or, “In an effort to keep costs down, mobile connector will be sold separately.” I want to see the numbers.
People can debate and talk about wether they use it or do not use it, but bottom line, all orders before Musks tweet, were advertised that this accessory was included with the purchase. For comparison, Apple announced removal of accessories from iPhone before a single order for the model excluding chargers even went on sale, people knew what they were buying. It is false advertisement and a breach of contract to remove something from an order AFTER taking a non refundable deposit, they can remove it, sure, but not from existing orders.
E90alex
Active Member
Yes. The plan moving forward was to not include the mobile connector and then have a $400 version for sale which would have been a UMC gen 2 with extra NEMA adapters. That’s where people are getting $400 from.
buddhafree
2022 MYP
Actually Wall connector and Mobile charger are almost the same. Wall connector allows permanent installation, higher amperage and support remote API calls.
You can't just use a wire to plug in the car. Mobile connectors have necessary electronics inside to set voltage/amp and to communicate with a car computer.
Dryers don't normally use 50amp, 30amp is the standard (14-30 or 10-30 plugs).
FlatSix911
Porsche 918 Hybrid
E90alex
Active Member
Your order agreement includes a clause stating “Options, features or hardware released or changed after you place your order may not be included in or available for your Vehicle.”
So they can change included features and options if they want. They have previously removed features and added features without changing the order price for in progress orders.
OmbreCake
MYLR5 Blue/Black Gemini | No Tow | No FSD
You’re correct: the charger is in the car. The mobile connector (and wall charger) are EVSEs. They do have to have the intelligence to negotiate amperage and communicate with the onboard charger in the car. The difference between the WC and the MC is down to mode of installation and charging speed for the most part. The WC is not much faster than the MC, and it doesn’t have the advantage of being portable if needed. The MC is a great piece of kit, and it’s a huge shame it’s no longer included.
Wow! When we first got our Model 3 in December of 2019, we used it to charge until we got the 240 volt outlet and Tesla charger installed in the garage. That was about 3 months that I needed the included cable. Sure, we don't need it that much anymore but, it will be used when we travel and stay somewhere and need the 120 volt/Level 1 charging capability. I used it on our February roadtrip to charge at relative's garage.
Still, there are people that can use the Level 1 cable to charge at home as the average commute is 60 miles or less which would allow regular Level 1 charging at home. Seems like this strategy is similar to not including Homelink (Garage Door Opener) with Tesla vehicles. Penny wise, pound foolish?
Still, there are people that can use the Level 1 cable to charge at home as the average commute is 60 miles or less which would allow regular Level 1 charging at home. Seems like this strategy is similar to not including Homelink (Garage Door Opener) with Tesla vehicles. Penny wise, pound foolish?
"hardware released or changed"
This is referring to unreleased hardware, or hardware that has changed in design for example, nothing about exclusion of existing advertised hardware.
E90alex
Active Member
Tell that to the people that lost lumbar, radar, Homelink, auto dimming mirrors, etc in the past with no recourse.
The Chevrolet Volt should have come with a GM charging cord set (120V/Level 1 EVSE) capable of charging the Volt on 120V at either 8 amps or 12 amps ( if no other devices were in use on the circuit.) If you purchased your Volt used then it may not have come with the GM charging cord set.
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Damn, that is awful...
Clearly they have a massive demand and low supply problem that they are trying to solve, this is not the way to solve it imo
The low end of the EVSE market has been claimed by off-shore manufactured Level 1 / Level 2 units capable of charging at 120V or 240V and up to 16 amps (requires a minimum of 20 amp circuit.) Once you start looking at 32 amp and 40 amp capable EVSE the selection thins out and the price is not any different than the $275 that Tesla charges for the Gen2 Mobile Connector. My only issue with the Tesla Gen2 Mobile Connector is the 18 foot charging cord. Also, if it matters to you the Tesla Gen2 Mobile Connector does not support Bluetooth or Wi-Fi and does not by itself capture charging data.
SalisburySam
Active Member
Disagree. He cares little about dimes; it’s all about the Benjamins and Hamiltons/Clevelands.
SalisburySam
Active Member
Could be. But the severe skeptic in me says it’s a money grab…little if anything to do with supply chain issues so in vogue today as THE excuse for all non-deliveries.
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