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The comparison vehicles. My car in the front with mods well documented here. BeastMode13's Dual Purpose P3D Build Journey
The Redwood test mule.
Hello there. The object of our collective interest and curiosity. Aside from Redwood Ohlins, their own FUCA, rear camber arm, rear toe arm are installed on the car.
The big question is, how is the ride. Tires play a factor in the ride quality of a car, so I swap on my track set with 265/35/19 RE71R to match the tire/wheel setup of Redwood. I also adjusted my tire pressure to match at 34psi hot. We made adjustments to the compression and rebound for both cars to be at near the softest setting. My MPP set at 14c/13r. Redwood set at 20, Ohlins are one-way adjustable. Note on the Ohlins' 30 click adjustment. Redwood noted the valve is pretty much full open at 20, so there is little difference between 20 to 30.
We drove both cars on the streets of Fremont around Redwood HQ for over an hour. Both systems are street/track-focused, but at the soft settings, it handled the expansion joint, bumps, humps, road turtles, and road imperfections equally well. Which means way better than stock P3D or 3 suspensions. Does it make the turtle disappear, nope, it is still there, you can feel it, but much smoother, not jarring like stock. Composure over road undulations was well controlled. I would feel very comfortable driving at autobahn speed. Well, at least with MPP, I drove it at that speed on the tracks. With the stock suspension, the car gets floaty and unsettled over undulation at 60mph+.
The only place where I can feel the DFV having a noticeable advantage is driving over closely placed road reflector, like the yellow reflector in the photo below. The quick succession of small impacts would start to build up with the MPP where I can feel the vibration in my lower back while I did not feel that vibration with the Ohlins. Bear in mind this is a particular case, that I purposely drove on the high-density turtle to produce. When the reflector is placed farther apart, like the white ones in the photo, both MPP and Ohlins perform equally well, meaning no vibrations. Perhaps MPP/KW could be as good with better compression or rebound adjustment on my part?
On the test route, there is an off-camber left turn with a bump in mid-corner. My car felt planted going over and the bump and through the entire turn. While Redwood's test mule got a little unsettled by the bump. Redwood said this could be addressed with damping adjustment. I don’t have a doubt since Ohlins competes at all levels of Motorsports. Likewise with KW.
Both of these systems are of high quality. You can't go wrong with either. It is a great time to be a Model 3 enthusiasts.
The comparison vehicles. My car in the front with mods well documented here. BeastMode13's Dual Purpose P3D Build Journey
The Redwood test mule.
Hello there. The object of our collective interest and curiosity. Aside from Redwood Ohlins, their own FUCA, rear camber arm, rear toe arm are installed on the car.
The big question is, how is the ride. Tires play a factor in the ride quality of a car, so I swap on my track set with 265/35/19 RE71R to match the tire/wheel setup of Redwood. I also adjusted my tire pressure to match at 34psi hot. We made adjustments to the compression and rebound for both cars to be at near the softest setting. My MPP set at 14c/13r. Redwood set at 20, Ohlins are one-way adjustable. Note on the Ohlins' 30 click adjustment. Redwood noted the valve is pretty much full open at 20, so there is little difference between 20 to 30.
We drove both cars on the streets of Fremont around Redwood HQ for over an hour. Both systems are street/track-focused, but at the soft settings, it handled the expansion joint, bumps, humps, road turtles, and road imperfections equally well. Which means way better than stock P3D or 3 suspensions. Does it make the turtle disappear, nope, it is still there, you can feel it, but much smoother, not jarring like stock. Composure over road undulations was well controlled. I would feel very comfortable driving at autobahn speed. Well, at least with MPP, I drove it at that speed on the tracks. With the stock suspension, the car gets floaty and unsettled over undulation at 60mph+.
The only place where I can feel the DFV having a noticeable advantage is driving over closely placed road reflector, like the yellow reflector in the photo below. The quick succession of small impacts would start to build up with the MPP where I can feel the vibration in my lower back while I did not feel that vibration with the Ohlins. Bear in mind this is a particular case, that I purposely drove on the high-density turtle to produce. When the reflector is placed farther apart, like the white ones in the photo, both MPP and Ohlins perform equally well, meaning no vibrations. Perhaps MPP/KW could be as good with better compression or rebound adjustment on my part?
On the test route, there is an off-camber left turn with a bump in mid-corner. My car felt planted going over and the bump and through the entire turn. While Redwood's test mule got a little unsettled by the bump. Redwood said this could be addressed with damping adjustment. I don’t have a doubt since Ohlins competes at all levels of Motorsports. Likewise with KW.
Both of these systems are of high quality. You can't go wrong with either. It is a great time to be a Model 3 enthusiasts.
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