Zane Liu
Member
So I don’t think anyone here is trying to indicate Tesla is not innovating or that vision isn’t an awesome innovation if it works. People are instead indicating there may be edge cases that are harder to resolve.
For instance, vision has faced more phantom breaking than radar. It’s great 90% of the time but the braking is a real issue and does impact day to day use while Tesla tries to resolve it. It may be fixed eventually but presently that is a real driving concern. And yes it’s our role to be vigilant while driving, but again it’s hard to predict the car’s behavior and for those who just get the car it’s a learning process.
Now with the USS sensor, yes vision should behave as well as any human driver can “at least.” But who’s to say a human driver hasn’t scraped their car going over a deep curb or parked a bit to forward and dinged the front ever slightly? Even the most attentive driver can make that error. Technology is amazing because not only does it do as well as a human, it can give us superpowers and be better than us. That’s why we all want FSD to eventually replace human driving. Again, I’m not saying Tesla can’t get vision to work better than humans, but for a period (which might be a year or more), it is a customer’s right to be concerned because maybe their car will do something of concern. It’s an expensive car and no one wants to damage it. Having the potential to be better wouldn’t make a scratch feel any better.
And if you’re arguing that we may not know better than Tesla about these facts, there are plenty of people in this forum with technical backgrounds that are viewing this through the lens of what challenges Tesla needs to account for. It’s ok to support Tesla and also be skeptical. That’s what shareholders and customers should do. But I appreciate you bringing these up because it’s an opportunity for us to discuss these technical elements.
For instance, vision has faced more phantom breaking than radar. It’s great 90% of the time but the braking is a real issue and does impact day to day use while Tesla tries to resolve it. It may be fixed eventually but presently that is a real driving concern. And yes it’s our role to be vigilant while driving, but again it’s hard to predict the car’s behavior and for those who just get the car it’s a learning process.
Now with the USS sensor, yes vision should behave as well as any human driver can “at least.” But who’s to say a human driver hasn’t scraped their car going over a deep curb or parked a bit to forward and dinged the front ever slightly? Even the most attentive driver can make that error. Technology is amazing because not only does it do as well as a human, it can give us superpowers and be better than us. That’s why we all want FSD to eventually replace human driving. Again, I’m not saying Tesla can’t get vision to work better than humans, but for a period (which might be a year or more), it is a customer’s right to be concerned because maybe their car will do something of concern. It’s an expensive car and no one wants to damage it. Having the potential to be better wouldn’t make a scratch feel any better.
And if you’re arguing that we may not know better than Tesla about these facts, there are plenty of people in this forum with technical backgrounds that are viewing this through the lens of what challenges Tesla needs to account for. It’s ok to support Tesla and also be skeptical. That’s what shareholders and customers should do. But I appreciate you bringing these up because it’s an opportunity for us to discuss these technical elements.