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EDIT: not sure you meant for rain or the vehicle type…In my experience 20% reduction in range isn’t out of the question.
Given all the stuff this OP laid out (in Arkansas, not CA where charging is plentiful, no real charging on the way, no work charging, 170 real miles round trip, 50 weeks a year), I wouldnt do it in a model 3, unless perhaps I was leasing it (or work was paying for it) and work was going to let me charge there, even if it was on 120v while sitting there.
Route is the west side of LR to Russellville. Other than a couple L2's at UCA and Hendrix in Conway, That's about it for charging currently. The EA station in Clarksville isn't really practical since it adds another 30-45min to the trip by going past the destination.Can you tell us what the route is? Like city to city? Not specific addresses. I assuming Little Rock to somewhere around Clarksville.
Electric in AR is pretty cheap...$0.10 - $0.11 per kwh residential rates. We'd ultimately look at solar sooner rather than later as we designed the house with open roof planes in optimal directions for solar when we built a couple years ago. We're a retail net metering state (at least for the next few years).I agree it’s a close use case, and it’s really thrashing the car, but assuming low electricity prices (no idea in Arkansas), it would save about $2000 per year in energy cost, see above for assumptions, which is not nothing.
Route is the west side of LR to Russellville. Other than a couple L2's at UCA and Hendrix in Conway, That's about it for charging currently. The EA station in Clarksville isn't really practical since it adds another 30-45min to the trip by going past the destination.
Electric in AR is pretty cheap...$0.10 - $0.11 per kwh residential rates. We'd ultimately look at solar sooner rather than later as we designed the house with open roof planes in optimal directions for solar when we built a couple years ago. We're a retail net metering state (at least for the next few years).
5 days per week / 50 weeks per year is absolute worst case. It'll likely end up settling on around 3 days per week and 45ish weeks per year once remote work options and actual PTO time are figured out. Still doesn't change the trip segment issues at normal pace of traffic and extreme weather conditions.
Surprisingly (given most other policies in this state), AR is investing about $250k annually of VW settlement money into L2 charging infrastructure (7kW minimum output) via rebate programs. At roughly $9k/$7.25k (gov't/non-gov't property) per dual outlet charger, that basically covers the hardware costs for anyone wanting to add the infrastructure for publicly available chargers. That may make the workplace charging conversation more likely to have a positive outcome.
Yes 20% reduction in moderate to heavy rain.EDIT: not sure you meant for rain or the vehicle type…
For vehicle type:
I have a Performance and my brother has an LR (actually a Stealth Performance) We see a difference of around 20Wh/mi on similar stretches at freeway speeds. Works out to be around 5-8% (depending on the speed of course).
20% impact would suggest that at 80mph the range of the LR is 295 miles and the Performance is 247 miles. (Both to 0%, 77kWh.) This is definitely not what would be observed.
20% impact in range due to rain - yeah I could see 20% in bad rain.
Maybe in a stealth or with some lighter wheels but with the original 20” boat anchors mid 300’s was almost always the rule for me at 75-80 in ideal weather.It's for sure a close call, but my biggest concern would be the thrashing of the car and not being able to use features at the destination. Not whether I could make it. It's nearly all interstate so getting behind someone going your speed helps a lot.
Anyway, something to ponder. Note that ABRP is pretty pessimistic in its estimates these days. There's no way you're going to do 335Wh/mi on that stretch in a Performance (in ideal conditions). You'll be closer to 300Wh/mi.
A Better Routeplanner. (Note this is not the full distance.)
It would definitely be better if there were a fast charging option along the way. I guess you wait a few months and then see...
I have lifetime 285Wh/mi, and a lot of that was on the 20” wheels (though I have swapped temporarily to other wheels at times).Maybe in a stealth or with some lighter wheels but with the original 20” boat anchors mid 300’s was almost always the rule for me at 75-80 in ideal weather.
240-245Wh/mi. Seems about right for those speeds in that vehicle and tires/wheels.Drove one of our 21 M3 LRAWD's in May from 100% to 7%, 287 miles, temps in the upper 80's lower 90's. Speed varied from 55 to 75-80 mph.
When new, have to get ~450Wh/mi to not make the proposed trip (~470Wh/mi if you use the buffer). Numbers go down from there, proportionate to capacity loss. Unlikely you’ll ever need to do better than about 390Wh/mi (to 0%, not using buffer).
300Wh/mi for 170 miles is 51kWh.300Wh/mi with my big sticky performance tires. So even I could go 170 miles on 50% charge.
Story checks out for a 2021 SR+:130 miles a day in my SR+. Charge to 90%, get home with between 20-30%. 75% is highway with an average of 245 wh/mi.
What is a realistic consumption in 70 degree weather going 75mph on the interstate for an 82 kWh LR? I don’t have a LR personally but my guess would be somewhere around 290 Wh/mile. My quick math would suggest somewhere around 265 miles realistic highway range (without using the reserve). Thoughts?Story checks out for a 2021 SR+:
130mi*245Wh/mi/(53500Wh*0.955*0.99) = 63%
I think ~230-235 staying in a comfortable range assuming 300wh/mi average.What is a realistic consumption in 70 degree weather going 75mph on the interstate for an 82 kWh LR? I don’t have a LR personally but my guess would be somewhere around 290 Wh/mile. My quick math would suggest somewhere around 265 miles realistic highway range (without using the reserve). Thoughts?
Those aero wheels and tires help considerably, so I'd expect more like 270-280Wh/mi for the LR for that scenario. (I don't have one, so I am definitely guessing.) My brother has a Stealth though, and this seems in the ballpark from the numbers I've seen him get for ideal, high-speed Seattle to Portland runs (250Wh/mi) - a little slower than 75mph on average though. Obviously other cars on the road here is a factor - I would not expect this low on a deserted highway.I don’t have a LR personally but my guess would be somewhere around 290 Wh/mile. My quick math would suggest somewhere around 265 miles realistic highway range (without using the reserve). Thoughts?