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EVNow
Well-Known Member
If they did surveys, we'd have read about them.
I'm fairly sure the optimal will be closer to smaller bundles than larger bundles.
The screenshot of the PUP interior features doesn't say anything about a heated steering wheel:
I could be wrong then about the heated wheel. There used to be verbiage somewhere specific to them adding rear seat heaters with the package, but perhaps they changed it since.
SageBrush
REJECT Fascism
Optimal is what maximizes revenue and production.
SageBrush
REJECT Fascism
I saw it today on the login site at Tesla.com
I've not seen any mention of heated steering wheel. My personal guess is that it is present on the the base car.
Yes it is. Tesla is STEALing your money...
BluestarE3
Active Member
It's right there in the image I posted (emphasis mine):
There's an entire thread devoted to the conjecture/lamentation about the possible inclusion/exclusion of a heated steering wheel on the Model 3:
No heated steering wheel? (Leaf and Bolt have it)
ccutrer
Active Member
It's not trial and error. BMW is simply a far more mature company that has the luxury of a more robust factory, staff, and suppliers that allow them to offer more options (at marginally better prices - or not, depending on the case). As @SageBrush said, Tesla is "optimizing" for themselves at the moment - get as many Model 3s built and sold as possible. Which, at the moment, is in conflict with giving everyone the exact mix of options they would prefer. Maybe in a year or two they'll unbundle. Maybe not. Their research may indicate that the extra money made from people that will get the PUP that would normally only get one or two smaller options far outweighs the money lost from people that will not get the PUP - or possibly not buy the car at all!
chronopc
Active Member
They can't even build the cars fast enough. I'm sure once they clear their backlog they will consider doing things differently. Right now they want their production to be as simple as possible. Their decision make sense. Having said that in a perfect world I wouldn't have to pay for the premium audio to get the other stuff.
omgwtfbyobbq
Active Member
This! I've read that Tesla's at about 4x the labor hours per car of the average large manufacturer. They can fiddle with packages after they've ramped up their production lines to meet or exceed industry averages.
Your posts consistently fail to add to the conversation - Welcome to Ignore.
PUP is definitely pretty fairly priced considering all that`s packed into it. But It kinda doesn`t help people like me who don`t want 90% from that package
I can't say I'd choose to pay for everything in it, but it's stuff that I'll like having. Upgraded audio for instance and leather seats aren't things being two examples, and most of the cost of the PUP package.
But automatic seats, glass roof, heating throughout and memory seats make it worth it. And I'm sure I'll like the leather seats and upgraded audio as well.
The screenshot of the PUP interior features doesn't say anything about a heated steering wheel:
As far as I know this isn't confirmed to be real yet, I'll wait until there is something actually on the Tesla page or a valid screenshot of someone configuring.
Surveys don't always get the kind of coverage you are expecting.
Surveys were handed out (and collected) at the King of Prussia Mall store to those waiting in line on 2016-03-31.I know, I was there. The cynics will say they were to keep the line waiters from getting restless... ;-)
But seriously, the M3 line is expected to be about 5x more labor efficient than current S/X line(s) so it is reasonable to expect world class on the M3 line by around the end of the year.
Same here.
I don't trust most of the cost allocations reported here since summing individual costs results in multiples of 5k.
You can't take a couple of items you wouldn't choose and then say that accounts for the majority of PUP price.
Forgot that I will need the memory seat.
A post from 2015 seem to suggest there are three positions:
"Correct. I got a 2013 CPO with the tech package, and the advisor mentioned that was part of it. I really like it. One memory option for my wife, myself, and one called exit to move the seat back further and lift the steering wheel up and towards the dash for easier entry exit."
A post from 2015 seem to suggest there are three positions:
"Correct. I got a 2013 CPO with the tech package, and the advisor mentioned that was part of it. I really like it. One memory option for my wife, myself, and one called exit to move the seat back further and lift the steering wheel up and towards the dash for easier entry exit."
chronopc
Active Member
ccutrer
Active Member
Some day Tesla will do a software update to have an implicit entry/exit position. Other brands already do this (and is more important for them since they have hardware buttons for Profile 1 and Profile 2). I'm not sure I'll do the explicit exit profile, because it would interfere with auto-profile-inference-via-keyfob.
