I can't believe that the option to cut off the headlights even exists anymore. They should just be on.
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I can't believe that the option to cut off the headlights even exists anymore. They should just be on.
You won't have that problem with a Tesla, because there's no control to turn them on or off (just a buried setting).
gg_got_a_tesla
Model S: VIN 65513, Model 3: VIN 1913
Regarding the heated steering wheel, it'd definitely be nice to have it. I don't need it much in the Bay Area but, have felt the need for it on trips to Tahoe in winter, even with cabin prewarming. I was one of those unlucky ones who didn't win the heated steering wheel lottery (with the subzero package or whatever it was called) in the earliest builds of the P85D in late-2014.
SageBrush
REJECT Fascism
Look, I don't care about a heated steering wheel, but I must say your argument sounds like "who needs a heater in the car, just wear a jacket for crying out loud!" If people want the feature, they want it. If enough people want it, Tesla will eventually provide it, just like they did with the S.
gg_got_a_tesla
Model S: VIN 65513, Model 3: VIN 1913
Gloves would probably do the trick. Am just not in the habit of using driving gloves (that can allow for operating the touchscreen too, I suppose).
Overall, the PUP package is well put together, IMO. A lot of good features albeit at a price that may be stiff.
SageBrush
REJECT Fascism
You can interpret it that way if you like, or take it as a PSA: gloves solve the cold hands on steering wheel problem for me, and I suspect pretty much anybody else without Raynaud's phenomenon.
And far be it from me to harp on behavior so lazy it makes me laugh and cry at the same time; I stopped teaching pigs to fly a long time ago. All I really want to see is the people strongly advocating the heated steering wheel clarify whether gloves are being used. At least give people context.
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I really need that for my work...yeah, my work, that's it...I think this should settle the argument that the trunk isn't big enough to stash bodies.
Model 3 Common Issues
Even Google Maps has the ability to work offline if you download the map data. Maybe they will add that type of functionality.
fluxemag
Member
Sweet! I can use the aftermarket wheels on my BMW. I bought them specifically because I guessed they would fit the Model 3 too.
I really don't understand the "meh, whatever" attitude about the usefulness of a heated steering wheel. If you live in Hawaii, sure, a heated steering wheel is useless, but not everyone lives in Hawaii.
For all we know, the 3 DOES have an option to add a heated steering wheel, but for whatever reason it is absent from all available documents. Perhaps @RandyS can settle the question.
People can wear gloves, so a heated steering wheel is pointless? Using your logic, there is no need for an HVAC system either (If you're hot, open the windows! It's raining? You'll cool off even faster! If you're cold, put a damn jacket on! You can afford a jacket if you can afford a $35k car!). For you guys saying "Who needs a heated steering wheel?!", have you ever used one in cold temps?
Mishakim
Member
I saw a mention of two in an article post-reveal, but I don't recall which. That's the normal configuration for a car this size, four total anchors, for two seats. Open question whether you can use the middle two anchors for a seat in the center, which is nice for rear-facing seats
roblab
Active Member
Meh, whatever. We're talking about a car that has instant on heat, six inches from the steering wheel. We're talking about people who live all over, and a great many don't use, don't need, don't want heated steering wheels or seats. Unless you live in the cold hinterlands, you don't even need heat half the time.
Maybe Tesla will offer it as an option. I certainly don't want to pay for something I'll never use, even when I go to Tahoe. The wheel is leather, even. "I really don't understand the" attitude that because some people want it, Tesla should build their cars to suit. Doesn't happen. Turn on the heater.
You don't see the value of a feature that uses perhaps 300-400 watts tops that can warm your frigid hands in the winter and reduce the need to crank the 6-8 kW heater in an all-electric vehicle?
Zaphod
Galaxy President (former)
Definitely three. There was good picture through the back window that showed them, but can't find it now.
Foxhound199
Member
Even on auto, they're not on all the time. They turn on and off depending on how dark it is, which I don't find to correlate all that well with how bad visibility is (mostly due to rain).
I'm curious if the Model 3 has a "noise maker" that has been federally mandated as of....I think the 2018 model year. Does the S/X have the noisemaker in place?
Mishakim
Member
Note that many cars have two sets of anchors at the seat base, and three on the seat back or package shelf. That's because you need the rear anchors for a top tether even if you're using the seatbelt to attach the seat base.
Another note on Latch, which I just discovered recently: there is now a 65lb weight limit for the Latch anchors, which applies to the combined weight of the child and the seat. So with a really heavy seat and/or child, you may not be able to (safely) use Latch anyway, and have to fall back to using the seat belt. Newer seats have a label doing the math for you, so you know how heavy a child you can use with Latch anchors. Some treat it as a selling point, if the seat is light-weight
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