Anyone know of adjustable camber arms for a 2022 X plaid? Trying to get a jump on waisting the rear tires already
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The palladium suspension is all new but they carried over the old camber gain behavior. Fortunately it is possible to make a robust and affordable camber kit that is much easier to install. Arms are overkill for what you need. The stock arms are great just in the wrong place. Our kit puts them where they should have come from the factory, The Macsboost kit also ingeniously does not require a realignment. If you have toe within spec before install you will have the same toe after. The entire kit can be installed without alignment equipment and in 30 minutes.Ok, just now reading up on this. Can someone give me the Cliff's Notes between the 2 kits? N2itive is $1,400 and Macsboost is $200. It looks like the N2itive includes lowering links. I always drive with the car in Low and use Very Low on the freeway (when I remember). I don't want the car to look slammed and I do have a gravel driveway so don't want it too low.
Our forged arms are for the the first gen s and x. Toe arms are not needed unless you are trying to go extremely low. Our palladium kit takes a different approach to camber correction an offers an affordable, easy to install, high performance solution for the refresh cars.I didn't buy the N2itive, but I believe much of the difference is that N2itive comes with the toe arms as well as the links and camber arms, so it is a complete setup. It is also what I would say is "appearance grade" parts, they are very pretty and designed to look good if they are visible.
The Macsboost arms are also nice looking and felt / feel very solid in construction, so it isn't like they are made from peanut butter or cast Chinesium. But you only get the camber arms with them, so there is definitely less "stuff" in the setup.
Can someone give me the Cliff's Notes between the 2 kits?
@macsboost - thanks; very informative. Can you let me know if I’ve got the gist of it?Our forged arms are for the the first gen s and x. Toe arms are not needed unless you are trying to go extremely low. Our palladium kit takes a different approach to camber correction an offers an affordable, easy to install, high performance solution for the refresh cars.
@macsboost - thanks; very informative. Can you let me know if I’ve got the gist of it?
Considering a new X and trying to get up to speed on the shudder issue.
As I understand it, the current [APR/MAY 2023] X is the 4th* generation for suspension: First Gen → Raven → Refreshed* → Palladium* and the issue of the shudder/CVs wearing out/uneven tire ware has been improved but not yet fixed.
Core to the problem is the X’s height in relation to the drive units, a situation bequeathed to it from being based on the S. Tesla’s tweaked the cars to encourage them to operate a lower height suspension settings but this only seems to postpone the inevitable failures/premature wear, not fix it.
The Palladium revision is thebestleast worse so far, but still needs a correction on the camber arm to prevent the tires from wearing prematurely and this is where the macsboost camber replacement part comes into play.
*never been clear to me if these are the same, mostly the same,
Shudder is from Cv joint issues. A separate issue from camber. You never hear of@macsboost - thanks; very informative. Can you let me know if I’ve got the gist of it?
Considering a new X and trying to get up to speed on the shudder issue.
As I understand it, the current [APR/MAY 2023] X is the 4th* generation for suspension: First Gen → Raven → Refreshed* → Palladium* and the issue of the shudder/CVs wearing out/uneven tire ware has been improved but not yet fixed.
Core to the problem is the X’s height in relation to the drive units, a situation bequeathed to it from being based on the S. Tesla’s tweaked the cars to encourage them to operate a lower height suspension settings but this only seems to postpone the inevitable failures/premature wear, not fix it.
The Palladium revision is thebestleast worse so far, but still needs a correction on the camber arm to prevent the tires from wearing prematurely and this is where the macsboost camber replacement part comes into play.
*never been clear to me if these are the same, mostly the same, etc.
shudder is from Cv joint issues. A separate issue from camber. Rears do not have a problem. It’s the fronts that do. What’s different? The front tires steer. Going easy on the throttle until the wheel is straight has more to do with premature wear than anything. Height only plays a small part. Lowered cars still have joint issues. The palladium did eliminate the jack shaft and both cv joints are internal spline. The first gen design is rather poor as the external spline is not as well supported and prone to winding up under high load and vibrating. The new palladium setup is superior but still prone to steering related wear.@macsboost - thanks; very informative. Can you let me know if I’ve got the gist of it?
Considering a new X and trying to get up to speed on the shudder issue.
As I understand it, the current [APR/MAY 2023] X is the 4th* generation for suspension: First Gen → Raven → Refreshed* → Palladium* and the issue of the shudder/CVs wearing out/uneven tire ware has been improved but not yet fixed.
Core to the problem is the X’s height in relation to the drive units, a situation bequeathed to it from being based on the S. Tesla’s tweaked the cars to encourage them to operate a lower height suspension settings but this only seems to postpone the inevitable failures/premature wear, not fix it.
The Palladium revision is thebestleast worse so far, but still needs a correction on the camber arm to prevent the tires from wearing prematurely and this is where the macsboost camber replacement part comes into play.
*never been clear to me if these are the same, mostly the same, etc.
In trying to diagnose higher than expected energy consumption, I had my alignment measured:The palladium suspension is all new but they carried over the old camber gain behavior. Fortunately it is possible to make a robust and affordable camber kit that is much easier to install. Arms are overkill for what you need. The stock arms are great just in the wrong place. Our kit puts them where they should have come from the factory, The Macsboost kit also ingeniously does not require a realignment. If you have toe within spec before install you will have the same toe after. The entire kit can be installed without alignment equipment and in 30 minutes.
Thanks. I am running them at 45psi (20" Michelin Latitude Sport 3). I installed your shims this weekend and will have my alignment checked again (shop only charges $25 for a check and printout) to make sure I got the toe adjusted correctly.Your alignment looks like a typical factory setup. Try more air in your tires
@macsboost - appreciate the posts and follow up. Not a mechanic by any stretch of the imagination but am somewhat handy and can generally follow along when a concepts explained well.A little extra rear toe in from your previous setup wouldn’t hurt. Glad you got them! You should notice better rear grip accelerating.
Assuming your car has good toe when you take delivery you shouldn’t need an extra alignment visit. Install and enjoy more usable grip and better tire wear. An alignment visit won’t hurt, just more hassle and expense.@macsboost - appreciate the posts and follow up. Not a mechanic by any stretch of the imagination but am somewhat handy and can generally follow along when a concepts explained well.
Slated to take delivery of an XLR in the next week and planning on installing the Rear Camber Correction kit once the car's done with aftermarket.
Based on the prior posts, am I correct to assume it makes sense to have an alignment preformed after the correction kit is installed?
Do you know if there's any other documentation / YouTube videos going into detail about the install?
Thanks!
Understood - thanks.Assuming your car has good toe when you take delivery you shouldn’t need an extra alignment visit. Install and enjoy more usable grip and better tire wear. An alignment visit won’t hurt, just more hassle and expense.
I just installed the macsboost rear camber kit. They are just spacers that space out the rear upper control arm. Pretty easy to install.
I have a 2022 model x plaid with 13,000 miles and the rear inside tires of the stock Michelin are almost bald. The front tires and the middle and outside of the rear tires still have a lot of life left.
hopefully this fixes my problem.