EarlyAdopter
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Well, now I don't feel as bad about our vehicle tax going up from 0.3% to 1.1% here in King County, WA.
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*I know a lot of you already know about personal property taxes, my wife and I have had to learn all of this stuff on our own.
Just thought I'd throw this out there as people moving to VA with a Tesla (or any expensive car) might want to know about the personal property tax situation here. In short, you must pay $ per year to own your car. The more your car is worth, the more $ you pay per year.
Currently, I'm unaware of any EV tax relief.
My wife and I just moved to Leesburg, VA from Fairfax County, VA. We are already aware of the county property tax that Virginia counties have. Each county in VA uses the Eastern Edition of NADA’s Official Used Car Guide. Specifically, the Department of Tax Administration (DTA) uses the clean trade-in value published in the January edition of the pricing guide. Anyway, each county has a % that differs from others that you must pay either bi-annually or annually. There is a tax relief so the owner pays a % of the tax up to the value of $20k and then pays 100% of the tax up to the value of the vehicle after.
We used to live in Fairfax County and not in a town or city so we've only had to pay just the county property tax there on our vehicles. Now that we moved to Leesburg, VA we not only have to pay the Loudoun County property tax, but we also have to pay a Leesburg, VA property tax... lol.
Just to recap when purchasing a vehicle here in VA:
VA Initial Sales Tax - 4.15%
County Personal Property Tax - Differs
Town Personal Property Tax - Differs
Our old location:
Fairfax County tax - 4.57%
Our new location:
Loudown County tax - 4.2% | tax relief is 60.5% on the first $20k
Leesburg, VA tax - 1% | tax relief 52% on the first $20k
For a $100,000 car in Loudoun County it would cost:
$100,000 * .042 = $4200
Relief calculation:
$20,000 * .042 = $840
$840 * .605 = $508.2
Total with relief:
$4200 - $508.2 = $3,691.80
Now to calculate same car value in Leesburg, VA:
$100,000 * .01 = $1000
Relief calculation:
$20,000 * .01 = $200
$200 * .38 = $104
Total with relief:
$1000 - $200 = $800
Now to add both taxes...
Loudoun County + Leesburg:
$3,691.80 + $800 = $4,491.80
That comes out to $374.32 per month just to pay personal property taxes on a $100k electric car. Now, I know this will go down slightly each year as the car devalues, but it's still quite a hard pill to swallow considering it's money out of your pocket. I was able to rationalize moving up to a more expensive car (Model X 75d) that doesn't have the gas costs of an ICE, but after we found out that we have to pay both the county and town personal property tax (we thought we would only have to pay the town tax), it bumps the Model X out of rationalization for us.
I feel your pain, also living in Loudoun County, VA. I'm actually looking into if personal property taxes are considered a deduction when filing your federal taxes. I believe they are...so, maybe some relief there.
That is insane. You should set up an LLC in Georgia and put Georgia plates on it. $20 a year for passenger vehicles.
I wonder how hard this would be...
Or you can drive a $2,000 beater car. That would be good for the Virginia air quality.Get real, guys. You live in the state and get their services, pay the tax. If you REALLY have heartburn, contact your legislatirs to change it. A few mooches in the area register their vehicles in DC but eventually get caught. Look at the total picture of taxes and benefits, you can always move to another state.
Ouch... I bet that stings...Ha. I live in Loudoun County and I agree personal property sucks. Last year I paid right around $40k for all my cars. What a waste of money.
I don't have heartburn at all, though I don't think this was directed at me. I'm just simply stating the numbers as they can be surprising to some who didn't thoroughly plan their vehicle purchase (us included).Get real, guys. You live in the state and get their services, pay the tax. If you REALLY have heartburn, contact your legislatirs to change it. A few mooches in the area register their vehicles in DC but eventually get caught. Look at the total picture of taxes and benefits, you can always move to another state.
Let me take this a step further...how hard would this be!!?? #Genius
Get real, guys. You live in the state and get their services, pay the tax. If you REALLY have heartburn, contact your legislatirs to change it. A few mooches in the area register their vehicles in DC but eventually get caught. Look at the total picture of taxes and benefits, you can always move to another state.
I don't have heartburn at all, though I don't think this was directed at me. I'm just simply stating the numbers as they can be surprising to some who didn't thoroughly plan their vehicle purchase (us included).
Hopefully this thread not only gets future Loudoun Co., VA Tesla owners to take personal property taxes into account, but future Tesla owners, no matter where they live, to know their local tax rates/costs so they are not unpleasantly surprised.
.....did this and didn’t pay CAli taxes thanks Montana!The op could always move to Montana - where vehicle cost - no matter how pricey - isn't even part of the equation ;
+ no sales tax
- Vehicles 4 years old and under: $217.
- Vehicles 5 to 10 years old: $87.
- Vehicles over 11 years old: $28 (if vehicle is not permanently registered).