I would purchase a set specified with 20mm posts or made for the Model S, since early Model S' used a 20mm socket and later switched to the larger 25mm.
Amazon provides paid free returns, so you can send them back if they do not work out.
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Model Y AWD - puck size discrepancy
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I would purchase a set specified with 20mm posts or made for the Model S, since early Model S' used a 20mm socket and later switched to the larger 25mm.
Amazon provides paid free returns, so you can send them back if they do not work out.
fiehlsport
Tire Guy
Yes, I'm not sure where the disagreement lies. You can use pucks that go in the holes or not, as long as there's something rubber between the car and the lifting device. The lifting points in the manual are the same ones I'm talking about.
Some lifts use rubber pads, some don't. I would hope that anyone jacking up a Tesla ensures there is rubber pad or a plastic puck between the jack/lift and the jacking point!
A2be
Member
Yes, one poster in this other thread on pucks found some for sale on Amazon that have the 20mm diameter protrusion.
It's in this thread:
What the puck?
Also, that thread explains how those smaller holes at the jack points are only one SOME of the Model Y's built in Austin: the ones with the 4860 batt cells and the new "structural battery pack". To date, that is only on the vehicles that Tesla has sold as Model Y AWD w 279 mile range; NOT on the long range or performance long range MY's.
tradosaurus
Member
Yes, that's what I am starting to understand. That ONLY the Model Y AWD (base version) built in Austin has the 20 mm holes. Not the MYLR or the MYP built in Austin.
Now what would be more interesting is if this is true for ALL Model Y AWD built in any giga factory? This will help those buying a Model Y know which puck size to buy in advance.
A2be
Member
TL;DR
Most Model Y's built since 2019, and all those being built currently (as of Oct 2023) can use the widely available lift pucks sold by many companies today. Those vehicles have holes in the chassis at the lift points that are approx. 25 mm in diameter, and those will fit most all the pucks you will find selling on Amazon today.
The 2023 "Model Y AWD" (spec'd at 279-mile range) version of the Model Y, manufactured using the new structural battery pack that contains the new 4860 battery cells, has lift point holes that are smaller, only ~20 mm diameter. These vehicles have been manufactured exclusively at Austin; they were introduced in March 2023, and removed from the Tesla configurator at the end of September 2023 (ostensibly to free up 4860 cell capacity for the Cybertruck and Semi). These will not work with any of the products sold on Amazon as of mid-September, as attested to by several TMC members.
There are other threads on lift pucks, but most TMCers are generally confused about the differences between various Tesla vehicles and the changing chassis lift-point hole sizes Tesla has used since 2012.
I'll add some details on the puck problem, and then my workaround, in the next post.
Most Model Y's built since 2019, and all those being built currently (as of Oct 2023) can use the widely available lift pucks sold by many companies today. Those vehicles have holes in the chassis at the lift points that are approx. 25 mm in diameter, and those will fit most all the pucks you will find selling on Amazon today.
The 2023 "Model Y AWD" (spec'd at 279-mile range) version of the Model Y, manufactured using the new structural battery pack that contains the new 4860 battery cells, has lift point holes that are smaller, only ~20 mm diameter. These vehicles have been manufactured exclusively at Austin; they were introduced in March 2023, and removed from the Tesla configurator at the end of September 2023 (ostensibly to free up 4860 cell capacity for the Cybertruck and Semi). These will not work with any of the products sold on Amazon as of mid-September, as attested to by several TMC members.
There are other threads on lift pucks, but most TMCers are generally confused about the differences between various Tesla vehicles and the changing chassis lift-point hole sizes Tesla has used since 2012.
I'll add some details on the puck problem, and then my workaround, in the next post.
A2be
Member
First off: some older Tesla Model S (and maybe X) vehicles had lift point holes that were smaller than 25 mm. I don't have personal experience with S/X, but saw several TMC threads that mentioned this when I did my lift puck research last month. Some info was from back in 2013... So if you own a Model S or X, and you want lift pucks, do your own research on those details.
Structural battery packs are the future; but they are not the past.
As far as I can tell, except for the 2023 "Model Y AWD" 279-mile range model that Tesla sold only March through September this year,
ALL of the Model Y's (and Model 3's) built to date have a lift-point hole with a nominal 25 mm inside diameter. And there are scads of lift pucks on sale on Amazon that fit these million+ cars. This is good news for many!
I have owned a Model 3 SR (2019–2021), a Model Y LR AWD w 331 mile range (2022–2023), and now own a Model Y AWD (279 mile range) with a structural battery pack/4860 battery cells.
First Model Y with a structural battery pack
The Austin-built "Model Y AWD" with 279 miles of range was the first Model Y built with the structural battery pack, which uses the new, larger 4860 battery cells, which notably, are structural cells (larger steel case, etc.) For this very different design of the battery pack—and, as Munro & Associates has shown with a tear-down video some months ago—a very different manufacturing process in both "body in white" and on the final assembly line, the design needed tweaked. Quite simply: Tesla engineers changed many things on this vehicle mechanically! One very small detail is the diameter of the four lift point holes under the chassis: they are now a nominal 20 mm. With paint & such, the protrusion on the lift puck needs to be more like 19.7 mm to fit in these vehicles. As of last month, NONE of the many pucks sold on Amazon would work, even those that have a photo showing "20 mm", as several of us can attest to.
However, the structural battery pack and 4860 cells are the future for Tesla, once cell production capacity is fully ramped. These are going to be in many of the longer range Model Y and Model 3s, once cell production can meet demand for Cybertruck and Semi. Structural battery pack vehicles weigh less to obtain the same vehicle range, and use fewer parts while being cheaper to manufacture,
So do be aware that not all lift pucks will work in all of the Model Ys and Model 3s going forward.
I hope this has helped clear up the confusion on lift puck sizes and Model Ys/3s. I'll give details on the challenges many TMCers have experienced (e.g., @fholbert and @A2be) finding pucks that fit for the 279 mile AWD vehicle, and my personal lift puck workaround for the 20 mm holes, in the next day or so.
Structural battery packs are the future; but they are not the past.
As far as I can tell, except for the 2023 "Model Y AWD" 279-mile range model that Tesla sold only March through September this year,
ALL of the Model Y's (and Model 3's) built to date have a lift-point hole with a nominal 25 mm inside diameter. And there are scads of lift pucks on sale on Amazon that fit these million+ cars. This is good news for many!
I have owned a Model 3 SR (2019–2021), a Model Y LR AWD w 331 mile range (2022–2023), and now own a Model Y AWD (279 mile range) with a structural battery pack/4860 battery cells.
First Model Y with a structural battery pack
The Austin-built "Model Y AWD" with 279 miles of range was the first Model Y built with the structural battery pack, which uses the new, larger 4860 battery cells, which notably, are structural cells (larger steel case, etc.) For this very different design of the battery pack—and, as Munro & Associates has shown with a tear-down video some months ago—a very different manufacturing process in both "body in white" and on the final assembly line, the design needed tweaked. Quite simply: Tesla engineers changed many things on this vehicle mechanically! One very small detail is the diameter of the four lift point holes under the chassis: they are now a nominal 20 mm. With paint & such, the protrusion on the lift puck needs to be more like 19.7 mm to fit in these vehicles. As of last month, NONE of the many pucks sold on Amazon would work, even those that have a photo showing "20 mm", as several of us can attest to.
However, the structural battery pack and 4860 cells are the future for Tesla, once cell production capacity is fully ramped. These are going to be in many of the longer range Model Y and Model 3s, once cell production can meet demand for Cybertruck and Semi. Structural battery pack vehicles weigh less to obtain the same vehicle range, and use fewer parts while being cheaper to manufacture,
So do be aware that not all lift pucks will work in all of the Model Ys and Model 3s going forward.
I hope this has helped clear up the confusion on lift puck sizes and Model Ys/3s. I'll give details on the challenges many TMCers have experienced (e.g., @fholbert and @A2be) finding pucks that fit for the 279 mile AWD vehicle, and my personal lift puck workaround for the 20 mm holes, in the next day or so.
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A2be
Member
Just for context: I wrote the two posts immediately prior to these in a new thread earlier today, specifically titled so as to help reduce confusion of TMCers who come into these puck threads and have no idea, and then don't fully grok, how unique the "Model Y AWD" 2 279 mile range, sold to date ONLY Mar 2023 to Sep 2023. And why the design changes affects lift pucks.
But some moderator moved them to this long-running thread, where folks are generally confused, and now, the title of that thread I created is missing. So that context is missing.
Oh well.
I'm thinking I probably wouldn't take the time to write such a thorough overview post again next time.
Few will notice it, or find it in search, buried in this confused thread. Confusion is the state of mankind.
But some moderator moved them to this long-running thread, where folks are generally confused, and now, the title of that thread I created is missing. So that context is missing.
Oh well.
I'm thinking I probably wouldn't take the time to write such a thorough overview post again next time.
Few will notice it, or find it in search, buried in this confused thread. Confusion is the state of mankind.Just for context: I wrote the two posts immediately prior to these in a new thread earlier today, specifically titled so as to help reduce confusion of TMCers who come into these puck threads and have no idea, and then don't fully grok, how unique the "Model Y AWD" 2 279 mile range, sold to date ONLY Mar 2023 to Sep 2023. And why the design changes affects lift pucks.
But some moderator moved them to this long-running thread, where folks are generally confused, and now, the title of that thread I created is missing. So that context is missing.
Oh well.
I'm thinking I probably wouldn't take the time to write such a thorough overview post again next time.
Thanks for all the information, I have read that "what the puck" post, it looks like the only way we can do now is buying the "potauto 20mm" puck, and hand fit down to 19.5mm?
I do not think so because the post/shaft is just to locate the jack point correctly. I am not sure how hard to file down the alum. and the Potauto 20mm delivery date is crazy ( in Dec). I ordered the polyurethane jack pucks in 25mm, so I think its easier to file it down with my gunsmith tools.
I have of the 20mm pucks but they need to be filed down. Wish there was vendor that sold them to fit.
I am asking one of the tesla accessory vendors but its weekend in China, so she won't reply the message.
I even asked her to provide Model Y AWD ( 4680 battery) accessories , specially the Front and rear door sill protectors because our 4680 model is all carpet. It really depends on the market and demand.
If you’re looking for some custom lifting pads I would reach out to this company on eBay.
I bought their lifting pads for my Model S, but they work for my Model Y and 3 as well. They are made in-house in the U.S., so they could probably change specs and create something custom if you asked.
I can say they are 1000% better quality than the cheap lifting pucks made of plastic and rubber you find on Amazon too.
Tesla Model 3 / Y Low Profile Jack Point / Lift Pad / Pad Adapter Tool - QTY:2 | eBay
Crafted out of 6061-T6 aircraft aluminum to precise tolerances and incredible finish. not included: Tesla Model 3 or Model Y ð. What's included: Quantity: 2Low Profile Jack Pads with retaining O-rings and white protective washers.
www.ebay.com
If you’re looking for some custom lifting pads I would reach out to this company on eBay.
I bought their lifting pads for my Model S, but they work for my Model Y and 3 as well. They are made in-house in the U.S., so they could probably change specs and create something custom if you asked.
I can say they are 1000% better quality than the cheap lifting pucks made of plastic and rubber you find on Amazon too.
Tesla Model 3 / Y Low Profile Jack Point / Lift Pad / Pad Adapter Tool - QTY:2 | eBay
Crafted out of 6061-T6 aircraft aluminum to precise tolerances and incredible finish. not included: Tesla Model 3 or Model Y ð. What's included: Quantity: 2Low Profile Jack Pads with retaining O-rings and white protective washers.www.ebay.com
Thanks, good choice as well. I don't mind the custom thing as long as it works great. I am wondering how many of us want it, maybe its good to place a big order to let them fabricate it.
I would reach out and let them know the specs you’re looking for since the Austin built lifting points are a different diameter.
yea, I send him an message on ebay and told him the lift point has 20mm holes instead of 25mm, hope he would love to do the custom design. ( just need to use mill machine to grind a few mm off the shaft.)
I would get a set also if they are able to fabricate it. They would need to make it 19-19.5mm to fit inside the hole.
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