I have read and heard the exact opposite, for most people 4.8 is insanely fast, I got the AB, and its also faster than what most are driving around me today. Many people regret the P for the harsh ride, expensive tires, and here in the north east they have to pay more for winter tires.I see many LR buyers regret not getting P.
P has Brembo brakes, CF spoiler, metal pedals and a a different motor from the LR. Factor that all in the price is reasonable.
I got a P and couldn't settle for anything slower. I guided my mother to get a LR and that's more than enough for her.
Most people in the north East would just buy a second set of rims and tires for snow although it is still lowered.I have read and heard the exact opposite, for most people 4.8 is insanely fast, I got the AB, and its also faster than what most are driving around me today. Many people regret the P for the harsh ride, expensive tires, and here in the north east they have to pay more for winter tires.
You live in Beverly hills or what.
lol go buy as S plaid+ then…Most people in the north East would just buy a second set of rims and tires for snow although it is still lowered.
3.5 isn’t even fast enough in California. I’ve already seen Taycans and Urus daily.
Home prices in LA county is 850k average and in IE it's 650k, still more than most people can afford.You live in Beverly hills or what.
LR can handle BMW the benchmark M3 and M4, P will exceed.Pretty much Tesla vs anything under 75-100k wins.
Checked out The Kilowatts youtube, he simply referenced performance brakes. He supplied no data on stopping distances between the two.Check out Youtube GJeebs and Kilowatts.
I was referring to:Checked out The Kilowatts youtube, he simply referenced performance brakes. He supplied no data on stopping distances between the two.
There was a model 3 thread on this that was last updated in 2018 that concluded there given the same tires, there was no difference between the stock brakes on the M3 and the "performance" brakes on the M3P. There was a quote from the Brembro FAQ on Page 2
Where can I find test data on stopping distances?
At the speeds that stopping distance is generally measured from (60 to 70mph), the test is primarily testing the tire's grip on the pavement. As delivered from the manufacturer, nearly all vehicles are able to engage the ABS or lock the wheels at these speeds. Therefore, an increase in braking power will do nothing to stop the vehicle in a shorter distance. For this reason, Brembo does not record stopping distances at this time.
The Mountain Pass vendor account on this site, said in that same thread "For sure. Big brakes are about repeatability rather than one-time performance."
Since I and probably most MY owners are not taking their MY out on the track, the question remains what is the stopping distance of the MYP vs the LR AWD? There probably is one due to the stickier tires of the P, but I haven't seen it published. Furthermore if a person if the tires on either model are changed, these stopping distances go out the window.
I was referring to:
At 0:11 seconds on the Kilowatt video, he says "you get larger brakes". I read somewhere for model 3, the LR has a lower performing Brembo or some other brand made in Mexico for the rear brakes. I've seen painted calipers for fronts and rear on LR and they look much smaller than Performance even though the wheel is larger which should give the illusion they are smaller if they were the same size.
What is sometimes overlooked, is the consistency for Teslas (all Ev's probably) to achive their max acceleration #'s, due to the consistency of electric motor torque production which makes it "easier" for the traction control systems to maximize traction repeatedly. I've been at lights against cars with faster published 0-60's than my wifes LR Y but more often than not, they either A)disabled the traction control and think they can get a faster launch but with nerves/adrenalin, they spin the tires or B)They leave traction control on and the rear wheel drive only powerhouse mustangs have trouble maximizing the grip on streets that arent 100% perfect for traction. Meanwhile, the Y effectively just..takes off/takes the lead and I end up at 50 or 60 before they do. (At which point, Im on a boulevard so I let up off of the accelerator).
Real world vs track and real world vs numbers on a page. Can be a big difference..