Model Y road trip experience with FSD 12.3.6

[Oliver_MY]

I recently took my Model Y from DC to the OBX, a little over 320 miles each way. I encountered a few things with FSD 12 .3.6 and routing that could have been better. First I started off with a 100% charge with 329 miles estimated. When I set my destination in the Nav, it had me charging at a Supercharger just south of DC with 77% battery remaining on arrival! That makes absolutely no sense when there are plenty of other opportunities along the way. I ignored it and hand picked a different one south of Norfolk Next, leaving DC, I was going from Clara Barton onto I-495 (south/outer loop) which had stop and go traffic. There was a long line onto the I-495 ramp about half a mile long and barely moving in the right lane. The left lane was open and a few cars went by with about 60 mph going north. The cars were literally bumper to bumper in my lane and barely moving, even stopping for 10-15 seconds at times. The FSD display showed the car in front of me but then did not show the next 3-4 cars and then displayed cars ahead with a large gap. So what happened was that FSD tried to pull out onto the left lane where cars were going by with a 50 mph delta to us. Not only was this super dangerous but also a complete jerk move if I even would have had a chance to get back in line later. Most likely, it would have missed the turn and cost me another 30+ minutes detour. Luckily I was expecting that move and stopped it from happening but it made me think how such situation will be trained with the AI. Later in the express lanes south of DC on 95 it was not able to read the digital speed signs that are mounted up high across the lanes. The speed was 65mph but the last sign it read (which was actually from an exit ramp) was 45 mph. Then later on the Outer Banks it did 49 in a 35 which I think is not acceptable either. The last thing to note was that I got many many "One or more side cameras occluded" when driving at night on I-95 but other than the chime becoming annoying the car was behaving fine. When I got back home, I check all cameras but could not find any dirt and the lenses looked clean.
However, I was happy with the overall performance considering the whole trip. Much better than without FSD. Btw, mine is HW4.

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[Eric33432]

I just took Red Ryder from Boca Raton to Tuscaloosa to Asheville back to Boca. My experience with this version of FSD is:

I turned on Minimal Lane Changes for each drive because for some reason it often wanted to stay in the passing lane

I turned off Auto Max as it goes way too fast on non inter state roads and highways

It adjusted the speed to 45 mph when it saw "Minimum Speed 45" signs in Georgia

Several times it wanted to stop to charge long before necessary (as OP states above)

In rainy conditions it said FSD was degraded. This cleared up when no longer raining

Other than the above it was pretty good. I will buy it the next time I go on a long road trip.

 

[Earl]

The last thing to note was that I got many many "One or more side cameras occluded" when driving at night on I-95 but other than the chime becoming annoying the car was behaving fine. When I got back home, I check all cameras but could not find any dirt and the lenses looked clean.

I recommend you reboot your main display computer.
You do this by pressing both scroll wheels until the screen goes blank. A few minutes later, a Tesla "T" appears on the screen, then, a bit later, the screen comes back to life. This tends to reset little software glitches that may be developing over time causing strange, intermittent issues as you've experienced.
Do this while parked in a safe place, not while driving.

 

[Oliver_MY]

Appreciate the feedback, will try the rest!

 

[CapsEngineer]

Just got back from a trip to Mississippi Gulf coast and used FSD (free on the way down, paid extra month while there and way back). I had similar experiences as @Eric33432

I turned on Minimal Lane Changes for each drive because for some reason it often wanted to stay in the passing lane

I found it doing this on four lane interstates and let it stay there because no one was behind me. It then moved over when cars were coming up behind me. Which is the same as I do in those situations.

On six or more lane interstates, it stay in the second from right lane. My guess is it does that to make it easier to for people entering and exiting the highway. I do the same on I95 here between DC and Baltimore.

I turned off Auto Max as it goes way too fast on non inter state roads and highways

I did this as well for the side roads becuase of the known speed traps in Mississippi. I wish it would allow us to adjust speed when this setting is on.

It adjusted the speed to 45 mph when it saw "Minimum Speed 45" signs in Georgia

These signs drove me nuts because I had it set to alert me when over the speed limit. That setting alerts at the magic 11 over the posted limit. I couldn’t figure out why it was chiming when I wasn’t that much over and then noticed the minimum speed signs and started watching when one would show up. The car would chime and drop the speed for a second or two and then jump back up to the speed limit.

I turned that chime off as soon as I could.

 

[CMPT PAD]

I just took Red Ryder from Boca Raton to Tuscaloosa to Asheville back to Boca. My experience with this version of FSD is:

I turned on Minimal Lane Changes for each drive because for some reason it often wanted to stay in the passing lane

I turned off Auto Max as it goes way too fast on non inter state roads and highways

It adjusted the speed to 45 mph when it saw "Minimum Speed 45" signs in Georgia

Several times it wanted to stop to charge long before necessary (as OP states above)

In rainy conditions it said FSD was degraded. This cleared up when no longer raining

Other than the above it was pretty good. I will buy it the next time I go on a long road trip.

Please forgive my ignorance: "I will BUY it the next time.... or I will SUBSCRIBE it the next time...?"

 

[pinolero]

Later in the express lanes south of DC on 95 it was not able to read the digital speed signs that are mounted up high across the lanes. The speed was 65mph but the last sign it read (which was actually from an exit ramp) was 45 mph.

I experienced this with first push of v12. In my case prior to getting on the express lanes it read the express lanes digital sign perfectly fine and accelerated to 72 in the main lanes. Once in the express lanes, I had that same issue as it could not read the signs and it would constantly slow down to 45 or even 35 which was quite annoying but also dangerous if I had a tailgater.

Lastly, I always get routed regardless of if the lanes are open or not to the express lanes. I once let it go to see if it would actually see the arms down, in one case it did in another it did not. This has been an issue since v11 which is mindboggling as it uses Google Maps, and that information is on there.

 

[Eric33432]

Please forgive my ignorance: "I will BUY it the next time.... or I will SUBSCRIBE it the next time...?"

I will "buy" a "subscription"!!!

 

[Eric33432]

I experienced this with first push of v12. In my case prior to getting on the express lanes it read the express lanes digital sign perfectly fine and accelerated to 72 in the main lanes. Once in the express lanes, I had that same issue as it could not read the signs and it would constantly slow down to 45 or even 35 which was quite annoying but also dangerous if I had a tailgater.

Lastly, I always get routed regardless of if the lanes are open or not to the express lanes. I once let it go to see if it would actually see the arms down, in one case it did in another it did not. This has been an issue since v11 which is mindboggling as it uses Google Maps, and that information is on there.

I've also had it miss a speed limit sign when I was passing a tractor trailer was blocking the view of the sign, and the speed limit changed at that sign.

 

[drb3333]

Not only was this super dangerous but also a complete jerk move if I even would have had a chance to get back in line later

I agree.

Once in my life I had to take a Defensive Driving course, and it amazes me that the programmers at Tesla do these obvious bone-headed things.

When testing my own FSD and turning right from a four-lane onto a four-lane after a stop sign, it placed me in the outside lane every time. Good driving suggests that you corner in the inside lane and then move over if you need the left lane, which is more conservative.

The safety aspect is that you only yield to one lane upon turning, and yield a second time when changing lanes rather than both at once which is technically possible but less safe.

I know somebody will say they do the other all the time, just by waiting for both lanes to be clear at the stop sign. But the car that will hit you is the one you didn't see. And it can place you in a pacing car's blind spot turning right alongside with you. (And yes, FSD does cruise in other cars' blind spots as well.)

I greatly worry now that AI, as it gathers experience, dumb drivers are determining my car's future decisions.

 

[Peter N]

I recently took my Model Y from DC to the OBX, a little over 320 miles each way. I encountered a few things with FSD 12 .3.6 and routing that could have been better. First I started off with a 100% charge with 329 miles estimated. When I set my destination in the Nav, it had me charging at a Supercharger just south of DC with 77% battery remaining on arrival! That makes absolutely no sense when there are plenty of other opportunities along the way. I ignored it and hand picked a different one south of Norfolk Next, leaving DC, I was going from Clara Barton onto I-495 (south/outer loop) which had stop and go traffic. There was a long line onto the I-495 ramp about half a mile long and barely moving in the right lane. The left lane was open and a few cars went by with about 60 mph going north. The cars were literally bumper to bumper in my lane and barely moving, even stopping for 10-15 seconds at times. The FSD display showed the car in front of me but then did not show the next 3-4 cars and then displayed cars ahead with a large gap. So what happened was that FSD tried to pull out onto the left lane where cars were going by with a 50 mph delta to us. Not only was this super dangerous but also a complete jerk move if I even would have had a chance to get back in line later. Most likely, it would have missed the turn and cost me another 30+ minutes detour. Luckily I was expecting that move and stopped it from happening but it made me think how such situation will be trained with the AI. Later in the express lanes south of DC on 95 it was not able to read the digital speed signs that are mounted up high across the lanes. The speed was 65mph but the last sign it read (which was actually from an exit ramp) was 45 mph. Then later on the Outer Banks it did 49 in a 35 which I think is not acceptable either. The last thing to note was that I got many many "One or more side cameras occluded" when driving at night on I-95 but other than the chime becoming annoying the car was behaving fine. When I got back home, I check all cameras but could not find any dirt and the lenses looked clean.
However, I was happy with the overall performance considering the whole trip. Much better than without FSD. Btw, mine is HW4.

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Even in Chill mode, I find one of FSD's few errors to be risky, aggressive lane changes. I wish you could leave the "minimal lane changes," option on, rather than having to select it for each trip.

 

[MAPekala]

I recently took my Model Y from DC to the OBX, a little over 320 miles each way. I encountered a few things with FSD 12 .3.6 and routing that could have been better. First I started off with a 100% charge with 329 miles estimated. When I set my destination in the Nav, it had me charging at a Supercharger just south of DC with 77% battery remaining on arrival! That makes absolutely no sense when there are plenty of other opportunities along the way. I ignored it and hand picked a different one south of Norfolk Next, leaving DC, I was going from Clara Barton onto I-495 (south/outer loop) which had stop and go traffic. There was a long line onto the I-495 ramp about half a mile long and barely moving in the right lane. The left lane was open and a few cars went by with about 60 mph going north. The cars were literally bumper to bumper in my lane and barely moving, even stopping for 10-15 seconds at times. The FSD display showed the car in front of me but then did not show the next 3-4 cars and then displayed cars ahead with a large gap. So what happened was that FSD tried to pull out onto the left lane where cars were going by with a 50 mph delta to us. Not only was this super dangerous but also a complete jerk move if I even would have had a chance to get back in line later. Most likely, it would have missed the turn and cost me another 30+ minutes detour. Luckily I was expecting that move and stopped it from happening but it made me think how such situation will be trained with the AI. Later in the express lanes south of DC on 95 it was not able to read the digital speed signs that are mounted up high across the lanes. The speed was 65mph but the last sign it read (which was actually from an exit ramp) was 45 mph. Then later on the Outer Banks it did 49 in a 35 which I think is not acceptable either. The last thing to note was that I got many many "One or more side cameras occluded" when driving at night on I-95 but other than the chime becoming annoying the car was behaving fine. When I got back home, I check all cameras but could not find any dirt and the lenses looked clean.
However, I was happy with the overall performance considering the whole trip. Much better than without FSD. Btw, mine is HW4.

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I was also on the express lanes on I-95 and I-495, and it also read the digital speed limit (which showed 65) as 45. Exact same place as you, I think. My drive there was at night.

 

[remedy302]

On a recent trip out of Philadelphia, it was amazing at weaving through the lanes to get to the right lane for the right exit (I would have been to busy reading the signs to do it in time).
On the way out of the city it almost caused a multi-vehicle pile up. There was a pickup truck on the side of the road with a tow truck behind it. There was a guy facing away from the road, who turned and moved toward the road which I assume the FSD though was a person about to walk onto the road and it jammed the brakes on hard. Trucks behind me screeching, cars flying past blaring horns before I could recover by jamming the accelerator.

From there up to Toronto. Sometimes it would not move out of the left lane when I put the blinkers on or would attempt many times to move right only to abandon it and keep trying until I took over.

After I while, I did learn (mostly) when to predict when it would go into bonkers mode. People around me must think Tesla drivers are bonkers, which is why I will not drive behind another Tesla.

 

[Earl]

There was a guy facing away from the road, who turned and moved toward the road which I assume the FSD though was a person about to walk onto the road and it jammed the brakes on hard. Trucks behind me screeching, cars flying past blaring horns before I could recover by jamming the accelerator.

It sounds like you've seen the ethical dilemma that could be the end to automated driving:
What happens if, to save the life of a person crossing the road, one must brake so hard it kills you and your passengers or causes you to cause an accident that kills others?
Then there's the dilemma where you can't help but hit one of the 2 people in front of you but you can chose which one . . .

 

[CMPT PAD]

I will "buy" a "subscription"!!!

Thanks for clarification. I plan to do the same thing if/when I drive 5+ hrs out of town for a few days then I would subscribe it for one month. I used up my one month FSD free and I was impressed of what it could do. NOT 100% perfect yet but 100% stree-free driving and ZERO panic mode.

 

[kpanda17]

Let’s capture the best settings to share, so far:

-FSD Driver Profile ?
-Minimal Lane ON
-Auto Max Speed OFF
-Set Speed?
-Offset ?

 

[Eric33432]

Definitely minimal lane change should be ON and auto max should be OFF for me.

 

[MeMongo]

I picked up my MYLR last Saturday, and I've been trying out the FSD (12.3.6). Of the five times I've used it, I had to take control twice. The first time, we were supposed to turn left after exiting the freeway. The car entered the right turn lane, and I took over. Then, when giving my daughter-in-law a ride, we were on side streets and stopped at a stop sign. We were supposed to turn left, but the car went straight, and I took over. Both times, I recorded a message about the failure. So far, I don't have a high confidence in the FSD.

 

[pinolero]

I greatly worry now that AI, as it gathers experience, dumb drivers are determining my car's future decisions.

You bring up a great point. Not all Tesla drivers are courteous and drive their best after all at the end of the day a human behind the wheel is responsible for their actions when using FSD.

 

[Blackshirt]

I picked up my MYLR last Saturday, and I've been trying out the FSD (12.3.6). Of the five times I've used it, I had to take control twice. The first time, we were supposed to turn left after exiting the freeway. The car entered the right turn lane, and I took over. Then, when giving my daughter-in-law a ride, we were on side streets and stopped at a stop sign. We were supposed to turn left, but the car went straight, and I took over. Both times, I recorded a message about the failure. So far, I don't have a high confidence in the FSD.

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Be careful using it in the city. Multiple times I had FSD initiate a left turn onto my home street and mid turn it decides that the handicap sidewalk ramp looked like it was a better route than the street. The first time it happened was my first time using it. The second time was near the end of my trial and I was dumb enough to try to use it to see if they fixed it after my report. Nope, same corner, same result. FSD is fun to use and keeps you alert on the highway bc you can't trust it. I don't like that I can't use Autopilot with FSD on the car. FSD was fun to use from CLT to the Outerbanks and back but on a 3 lane interstate it will not use the right lane and it drives like an old person. Hard on the gas and hard on the decelerate. I would get it for $100 a month just bc it was fun and as I said, it keeps you alert.