Last year I had a talk with a Porsche 911 GT3 owner who was looking into buying a MS. He was concerned with the acceleration. Although this was "pre P85D" I told him that I believe I do have more OFTEN fun in my P85 than him in his GT3. Today in my P85D, besides the the usual few full power runs, I almost always use about 50 % of power on each start at a traffic light (about 200 KW). As we know, in a MS this is easy with no drama and no screaming. It's always the same scenario, looking into the back mirror there is me alone and then the "rest of the crowd" some 400 yards behind. Now the interesting point is that "the rest of the crowd" often contains Porsches, BMW M5's, MB AMG 63 etc. In my opinion this " I need the roaring V8 sound" is just BS. Its great once in a while or on a track, but I suspect that owners of such ICE cars are in fact quickly annoyed by that sound and all the other drama which comes with a strong ICE acceleration. And of course there is always the "waking up the cop" effect which we MS owners do not have. Coming from 911's , M5 and MB 600, I have MUCH more fun in my MS and I believe I have even more fun than any Lamborghini/Ferrari driver. Especially with the P85D, which they can hardly beat at speeds where one does not get a ticket.