I think that maybe the AP1 promises went out the window when Tesla broke up with MobilEye? Like maybe they can't do it now because they don't have access to proprietary MobilEye stuff? Just my opinion.
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Musk promises better Summon coming "next year"
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I think that maybe the AP1 promises went out the window when Tesla broke up with MobilEye? Like maybe they can't do it now because they don't have access to proprietary MobilEye stuff? Just my opinion.
The Raza
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^^ Exactly.
If my mechanic said my truck would be ready "By 3pm", I would expect that 1 second after 2:59:59pm, I could pick it up.
In this sense, "By next year" would read the day after 31 December, 2018.
Not holding my breath... but incredulously hopeful
While I'd love for that to be the case, I think there is a distinct difference in connotation between by any specific hour, and by any specific day/month/year.
If your mechanic said your truck would be ready "by tomorrow", would you expect it to be available 1 second after 23:59:59 today? Similarly, if you said you'd have an assignment done for me "by next week", would I assume to have something in my hands 1 second after Sunday night 23:59:59, or even Monday morning 8:59:59?
To me, "by next week" means you estimate roughly some time next week, might be in the beginning, might be in the end. Otherwise, you'd just tell me you'd have it done "by end of this week". In corporate settings, I've almost always heard the "end of" qualifier attached after a "by" deadline, otherwise deadlines are unclear.
I find the second tweet very hard to believe for the general use case. My phone's GPS is not that precise - it is often at least a couple metres off in any direction. What is it going to follow?
Ketchups
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exactly, even uber drivers have a hard time locating their pickup. this tech is not reliable ~yet.
whatever the reason, AP1 is done for in terms of progress. it'll only be fed data updates.
Brian's ReX
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We both have good points. The most important point being: We are WAYYYY overthinking this!
It will simply be a cool feature if/when it materializes! If we expected things to be delivered on Elon's timelines... we'd all go stark raving mad!
You are confusing a single point in time ("By 3pm") versus a unit of time measurement relative to a given point in time ("By next year"). These are not the same concept, which leads to equivocation of the interpretation.
Re-consider what the distinction is between "by today" and "by tomorrow" and perhaps that will help clarify the concept.
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Kruegmeister
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They probaly will do something similar to what the uber app does, it allows you to adjust your pickup point, basically dropping a pin on a map.
I care about Summon if it works the way they are describing. Would be great to Drop my Wife & Myself off at the Door and have the Car go park itself in Rain or Freezing Cold Day.
Not to worry since the new smart summon will include sign reading just keep this sign with you. Problem solved
Even if Tesla eventually deliver, it will still be Beta for life. So go ahead and use Summon, and if the car crashes, it is your fault. Beta, you know.
Well, there is the putative Planet X whose year is between 10,000 and 20,000 Terran years (assuming it exists at all).
Glamisduner
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whitex
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I have no doubt in the next year they will release some new trick for summon, but anything Elon says has to be translated to reality. First, Elon time is not Earth time, by end of day means by end of next week. 3 months maybe, 6 months for sure means 3 years to never. Second, Elon features sound so much more when he says it than when he delivers it. He promised pretty much the same summon feature at the AP1 & dual motor launch. The exact words were "will find you anywhere on private property". We all know how that turned out. Draw your own conclusions.
robby
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Yeah, that's my read too. But I think it's on Tesla to find a way to make it right. The silent walking back of promises is the only bad taste I have in my mouth as an early AP1 buyer.
fasteddie7
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It’s not the broken AP1 promises that worry me, it’s that it was so casually forgotten about that I’m afraid the same will happen to AP2. The dash cam might just be the beginning of fragmented hardware features based on what month you bought your vehicle.
Don't feel sorry for me.
I bought AP1 for what it could do when I bought it. I got my money's worth. The increased nags is the only thing to feel sorry for me about. I'm 100% happy with AP1 other than that. Having used AP for a couple of years, I wouldn't trust any additional capabilities above AP1 anyway, at least not for a good long while.
Brian's ReX
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Glamisduner
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Nice I can't wait to take my car for a walk!
No wait he didn't say what kind of pet, maybe more like a cat or a rabbit?
No wait he didn't say what kind of pet, maybe more like a cat or a rabbit?
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