My current working theory is that the car will throttle to 60 kW if you have a destination set in your nav and you have enough charge to reach that destination. That would explain the apparent random throttling.
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My current working theory is that the car will throttle to 60 kW if you have a destination set in your nav and you have enough charge to reach that destination. That would explain the apparent random throttling.
I think that Tesla has a right to manage its network, doesn't it? If it sees usage that it defines as "abuse", it can throttle those users. That's not unlike your cell phone provider throttling your bandwidth on an "unlimited" data plan if you exceed a certain amount of GB.
My current working theory is that the car will throttle to 60 kW if you have a destination set in your nav and you have enough charge to reach that destination. That would explain the apparent random throttling.
My current working theory is that the car will throttle to 60 kW if you have a destination set in your nav and you have enough charge to reach that destination. That would explain the apparent random throttling.
My current working theory is that the car will throttle to 60 kW if you have a destination set in your nav and you have enough charge to reach that destination. That would explain the apparent random throttling.
Tonl, thanks for your data!
I don't think I'm abusing! I use 2 superchargers on my weekly trip from DC to NJ. On my way to NJ, I charge for ~20 min in DE supercharger and then at Edison, NJ supercharger for some local driving for abt 20-30 min. On my way back, I charge up to 150 miles rated in Edison and then in Delaware upto 80%
Hi again PunchIT
I have new data and theory here. I charged on the nearest SC as I mentioned on my previously post. I tested out a theory. On the navi I deleted my home adresse. I got 114kw when I charged at the nearest SC where I got the 60kw limitation for past 3 weeks. I'm not sure this is just a coincidence or not. I'll set my home adresse back on navi and test it again. My FW is 6.1(2.2.173). I got 60kw limitation after I got the latest FW.
At the moment I am working 74 miles from home. I left home with about 240 miles of range. I don't need to charge to get home, I have 150 miles of range shown as remaining. . But I am going to stop at the Petaluma charter on the way home and see what charging speed I get.
I wouldn't mind having my theory (post #113) confirmed.
How else could Tesla check for "charging close to home"? Frequent charging at the same Supercharger doesn't necessarily mean it's convenience charging close to home (not that this might not be necessary in some locations ...)
I have a feeling we're going to find out on Thursday.
I noticed a few weeks ago that when I was supercharging my 2014 P85+ at the chargers that are close to home (less that 100 miles) that my my charge rate will only go to 59kW even at low state of charge (20%). Thinking that my car was having an issue, i called my service center and told them the issue and they made an appointment. Now, 2 weeks later, I had my appt yesterday and dropped it off. Later that day my adviser called me and said they couldn't find any issues and had discussed with Tesla engineers and they saw no issues in the logs (i had provided charging times for them to look up logs). So i agreed to take the car back and they were going to return to me. I suggested they meet me at a local supercharger so i could see it was not an issue or they could see the issue themselves. Needless to say, when they tried to charge it it stop for them at 59kW. They took it back and called today with an update. What my adviser just called to tell me is that Tesla is now starting to limit supercharger charging rates. He isn't sure if it is based on distance of charger from the persons home or the frequency of the use of a particular supercharger, or all chargers in general. Anyway they are returning the car and telling me Tesla will be making a official announcement soon. This REALLY affects me as it takes a lot more time to charge when I am coming back from a business call on one side of the county and headed to the other. Not what was sold to me when i bought the car!
We know that Tesla has been putting in battery packs to cut demand charges at most Superchargers. Maybe the reduced rates are something to do with the overall load at the site and/or the SoC of the leveling pack?
I'd be very surprised if Tesla is putting in any sort of throttling on a user by user basis or even as a long term continuous thing for a site - as others have pointed out, it would be a horrible PR issue and is contrary to the entire philosophy of Supercharging.
Walter
But here's the counter intuitive problem... if you throttle users at a crowded supercharger, unless you are able to drive them away, you risk INCREASING the wait time... The one thing that would ever so tiny slightly make sense if you have a paired situation, a "local" (whatever that means) user is there first, a second "non local" car connects to the second charger and the charge for "local" drops to give more power to the "non-local" driver. But that is NOT what we are seeing.Well, there was grumbling in the beginning as it became known charging speeds slowed due to paired stalls, tapering, colder weather and such. But those were known quantities that were technical limitations. An effort to discourage certain users seems self-serving, contrary to however such an announcement might spin it. If a supercharger with 10-12 stalls frequently gets used to 100% capacity and the charging prioritizes longer distance travelers somehow, I can understand that. But not to be the lone car at a SC finding your speed artificially reduced, amid rosy talk of future efforts to bring even faster charging speeds.
Larry, your explanation then seems to make much sense, as there's no other benefit I can think of. Tesla has traditionally emphasized customer experience and goodwill (unlike companies like Comcast) over blind pursuit of profit and pennypinching, so an initiative like this would be somewhat of a departure from that.
Even if throttling locals turns out to actually be true and permanent, what promise are they breaking?