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I'd almost kill for $.15/kWh rates.I got the updated app yesterday and was interested in the charging data. I was very shocked to see that in the last 30 days the app said I saved $105 in gas costs. (428 kWh, spent $61, gas equivalent $166).
In the app, it does not use the actual miles driven (which it should be able to get). Rather, I believe it calculates it based upon the kWh used.
I used 428 kWh. At 25 kWh/100 miles (EPA numbers), this is 1712 miles. At 33 MPG, this is 52 gallons of gas. $3.20 per gallon in MN, it's the $166 that the app indicated I would have spent on gas, giving me a $105 savings.
I estimate that in this time period, I drove maybe 400 miles. When I had an ICE, I never filled up more than once every three or four weeks (10 gallon tank and 35 MPG). Using the same prices and mileage, I would have spent about $40 on gas, which is less than the Tesla costs. Remember, this is MN where is has been below zero many day.
Why would Tesla put out an App update to a bunch of tech-savvy customers that is blatantly misleading?
BTW, my car is nearly three months old and has 2,264 miles on it. I did two longer trips in December (300+ miles each), so I know my January miles are low
Thanks,
Jeff
You’re 3 months in. Relax and enjoy the car. They’re using all kinds of statewide averages, which is never perfect. If you want real info make your own spreadsheet. I have a wattage reader where my car plugs in, so I know exactly how much electricity it draws. They can’t use actual mileage because people would complain about privacy and tracking miles. Figure out your own $/mile with your specific electric costs, then compare the cost per mile with your last car. Thing is, you have way more data than you did with your ICE, so you’re still probably guesstimating what range it got. Relax!! Enjoy the rideI got the updated app yesterday and was interested in the charging data. I was very shocked to see that in the last 30 days the app said I saved $105 in gas costs. (428 kWh, spent $61, gas equivalent $166).
In the app, it does not use the actual miles driven (which it should be able to get). Rather, I believe it calculates it based upon the kWh used.
I used 428 kWh. At 25 kWh/100 miles (EPA numbers), this is 1712 miles. At 33 MPG, this is 52 gallons of gas. $3.20 per gallon in MN, it's the $166 that the app indicated I would have spent on gas, giving me a $105 savings.
I estimate that in this time period, I drove maybe 400 miles. When I had an ICE, I never filled up more than once every three or four weeks (10 gallon tank and 35 MPG). Using the same prices and mileage, I would have spent about $40 on gas, which is less than the Tesla costs. Remember, this is MN where is has been below zero many day.
Why would Tesla put out an App update to a bunch of tech-savvy customers that is blatantly misleading?
BTW, my car is nearly three months old and has 2,264 miles on it. I did two longer trips in December (300+ miles each), so I know my January miles are low
Thanks,
Jeff
I'd contend quite a few people do, as there are definitely better $60k cars. Or if not to save on gas, at least to not use gas at all.No one buys a $60+K car to save on gas...
That’s literally one of the top reasons to buy a Tesla lolNo one buys a $60+K car to save on gas...
The one good thing about St. Louis, Misery is that in the 8 off-peak months, we only pay $.053/kWh. Curious what the app will say for me once I get the update. Gas here is around $3.15/gal.I'd almost kill for $.15/kWh rates.
Has it been confirmed that the kWh reported in the app actually matches actual kWh at the wall? I was assuming they were only counting kWh used while driving. I'm more interested in knowing real kWh usage than any purported savings vs. gas.It’s also accounting for extra power pulled from the grid. Like if you pre heat your car off of grid power. Also the power you pull from the wall doesn’t 100% go straight to your battery. There are some efficiency losses either through the wiring or the cars built in charger itself. Not saying Tesla’s way of reporting gas savings is right or wrong but that’s probably why the app is off and it shows you saving more money than you probably would.
I used 428 kWh.
How sure are you about this? That's1.07 kWh per mile.....which is extremely high....even for winter driving.I estimate that in this time period, I drove maybe 400 miles
Did you ever believed the advertisement off Shell our any other gasoline company with there fuel saving “new developed V-power”?I got the updated app yesterday and was interested in the charging data. I was very shocked to see that in the last 30 days the app said I saved $105 in gas costs. (428 kWh, spent $61, gas equivalent $166).
In the app, it does not use the actual miles driven (which it should be able to get). Rather, I believe it calculates it based upon the kWh used.
I used 428 kWh. At 25 kWh/100 miles (EPA numbers), this is 1712 miles. At 33 MPG, this is 52 gallons of gas. $3.20 per gallon in MN, it's the $166 that the app indicated I would have spent on gas, giving me a $105 savings.
I estimate that in this time period, I drove maybe 400 miles. When I had an ICE, I never filled up more than once every three or four weeks (10 gallon tank and 35 MPG). Using the same prices and mileage, I would have spent about $40 on gas, which is less than the Tesla costs. Remember, this is MN where is has been below zero many day.
Why would Tesla put out an App update to a bunch of tech-savvy customers that is blatantly misleading?
BTW, my car is nearly three months old and has 2,264 miles on it. I did two longer trips in December (300+ miles each), so I know my January miles are low
Thanks,
Jeff
No, but what does that have to do with Tesla posting misleading data? If your neighbor is dishonest, does that give you the excuse to be equally misleading? Just curiousDid you ever believed the advertisement off Shell our any other gasoline company with there fuel saving “new developed V-power”?