shahryaran
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That's not EPA. It's WLTP
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NEW Model 3 Highland review!
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Zoltrix77
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Pretty much everything is improved, but completely ruined by the lack of stalks, what ever, I'm a Y driver, Hopefully Tesla will come to their senses by the time the Y refresh comes, otherwise I'll have to consider another brand.
shahryaran
Member
Ambient lighting is not much of improvement to me.
zoomer0056
Active Member
It seems as though all Teslas will be refreshed without stalks. It's the current momentum and it will be polarizing. Some will jump ship because of this.
You should always be considering other brands. Tesla doesn't have to stumble in order for someone else to make a better product.
Give the stalk-less Tesla's a chance. I own a Model S refresh w/o stalks, but have been driving a 2019 Model S loaner for the last month while mine's in for a repair.
I hate having to tell the car which direction I want to go when I get in. The stalk-less cars are VERY good at guessing which direction you want to go, and eliminating any need to touch the gear shift. Likewise, I've grown to like the turn signals on the steering wheel, they're closer to where your hands are naturally resting. Even my wife likes the driving experience of my car, and she's never cared about any car before.
I hate having to tell the car which direction I want to go when I get in. The stalk-less cars are VERY good at guessing which direction you want to go, and eliminating any need to touch the gear shift. Likewise, I've grown to like the turn signals on the steering wheel, they're closer to where your hands are naturally resting. Even my wife likes the driving experience of my car, and she's never cared about any car before.
^ This. Did everyone love the one pedal driving? I’m sure many people would get used to it. My wife did not like one pedal driving at first and now loves it.
Most of the naysayers will eventually come around.
We bought two new Teslas last year so will wait until we pull more value from them as they’re not super depreciated until replacing with new models.
Most of the naysayers will eventually come around.
We bought two new Teslas last year so will wait until we pull more value from them as they’re not super depreciated until replacing with new models.
johnnycnote
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Zoltrix77
Member
Coming from a RHD market, it took me ages to having the indicator stalk on the LHS of the column, I got used to it. But I'd still prfer it on the RHS. Don't tell me I just need to get used to it. Indicators on the steering wheel is crazy, I don't care what you say. Give the customer a choice. Its penny pinching, if you want to save money, don't put in ambient lighting.
Zoltrix77
Member
Oh I will be. It's insane that this car is so great but is hobbled by Tesla own goals, no USS, no stalks and no rain sensors. All of those things are proven to work great, and Tesla wants to remove them. Absolutely insane. If you like to be frustrated, that's fine.
I am very against the yoke but I think the stalk thing is not a huge issue. Glad to see the horn is back where it should be unlike the Plaid where it's a capacitive button (for now). There's a lot I thought I would not like about my M3P but after owning it for 2.5 years I don't even know why I would want a gauge cluster as an example. I agree - probably something you get used to and then it's all fine although it will definitely hold back some buyers so it's a bit of a risk, but when they sell every one they make then I guess the risk isn't that risky.
Fisker Ocean looking better all the time.
Black306
Active Member
Glad I bought a ‘23 recently. Only things I like are the increased range, new headlights, and new ‘19 rims. Rear screen is cool, but as the primary driver in the family, that’s eh to me. Front bumper is too simple. Door panels are too simple. Don’t like that there is now a mechanical cover over the cup holders; more that can break.
Leafdriver333
Somewhat Active Member
Fail.
The current model is much better looking inside and out.
The current model is much better looking inside and out.
Would respect that answer from someone that just bought the old model. I see it as an incredible complete update ground up. Typically car companies add a cup holder and date to add 10% more cost. All these improvements at the same price is rather impressive.
I think this addresses the worst thing about the Y/3 at the moment, the flexi chassis and excessive NVH. I’d say this thing will drive much better (more comfortable) than the previous gen. To have front suspension geo, bushing and mounting updates, combined with the focus on reducing noise through new materials will have a good positive effect.
