NEW Model 3 Highland review!

[smogne41]

I feel like it has to be said again regarding the refreshed S/X and the stalks/yoke (at least Highland does not have a yoke):
These design decisions were and continue to be a huge freekin' filter on the population willing to buy the cars. I don't know the percentage (I suspect large, but it may not be). Sales figures for the refreshed S/X have not been stellar for sure, but hard to say how much of that is because of this aspect.

The buyers either knew or suspected they would be fine with the stalkless and/or yoke. Everybody who knew or strongly suspected they would not like it went elsewhere.

Than you have the extremely strong self-protective effect of people's brains tending to suppress any buyers remorse if they just happened to dump six figures on a purchase.

You also have the whole issues of people proud of embracing something new and different (even if it is worse or not better). And the whole Tesla cult aspects....

Consequently, the opinions of S/X owners (while still valuable) are absolutely in no way representative, and give no meaningful assessment if the stalkless setup is going to be better (or acceptable) to most buyers. That would require actual testing with some representative sample of drivers, which there is no evidence was ever done.

We will have to wait for long-term sales figures to know how much of a demand suppressor this is (if any). I already know the answer for me though, and I am fully filtered

 

[zoomer0056]

opinions of S/X owners (while still valuable) are absolutely in no way representative

Why has no one created a poll thread?

 

[johnny_cakes]

Why has no one created a poll thread?

You're the first one to come up with this great idea. I look forward to seeing it

 

[T3SLAROD]

This isn’t 5 years ago when the Model 3 first came out. The cult and You Tubers will certainly HYPE it up, but it’s just a reskinned current Odel 3.

Buy an aftermarket screen and put it in the back and your set. LED lights? Again, buy aftermarket and save some money.

I remember the arguments about how it didn’t need ventilated seats

Like I said, it’s like Tesla came on this forum and saw what people were doing to their 3’s and decided to implement that and call it “New”

Just like the door button, auto trunk, wireless charger. It really is comical.

 

[zoomer0056]

You're the first one to come up with this great idea. I look forward to seeing it

 

[Nrkl]

Galaxy S8 was the first phone to remove the button not iPhone. Also iPhone are dumb phone.
Yes. People adapt to changes. But the matter is that whether indicator buttons on steering account for improvement compare to stalk.

Not true! Nokia N9 debuted buttonlessness with gestures. Way ahead of its time and such a tragedy

 

[shahryaran]

Not true! Nokia N9 debuted buttonlessness with gestures. Way ahead of its time and such a tragedy

That's true

 

[swoozle]

When you turn the wheel 180 degrees are the directional buttons swapped?

That's funny

 

[shahryaran]

That's funny

Stalk or no stalk argument [not] settled

First, we should analyze the matter without considering that the brand Tesla is making these changes and understand from a automotive/ engineering/ ergonomic point of view that whether indicator in steering has benefits compare to stalk. If it does, I'll accept that. Obviously there is always...

teslamotorsclub.com

 

[shahryaran]

You not gonna like no stalk

Stalk or no stalk argument [not] settled

First, we should analyze the matter without considering that the brand Tesla is making these changes and understand from a automotive/ engineering/ ergonomic point of view that whether indicator in steering has benefits compare to stalk. If it does, I'll accept that. Obviously there is always...

teslamotorsclub.com

 

[Gwelo]

I really like the look of the new headlights! Any specifics on them? Global (Matrix) or ?? Highly likely the Euro version will have the Global with full functionality but how about US? Different altogether??

 

[Shamone]

Interesting thats its slower 0-60 than the current model. 0.3 for the SR and 0.2 for the LR AWD.

 

[Shamone]

Some side by sides

 

[EVMeister]

Interesting thats its slower 0-60 than the current model. 0.3 for the SR and 0.2 for the LR AWD.

It's not. 0-100kmph is not 0-60mph.

 

[swoozle]

Stalk or no stalk argument [not] settled

First, we should analyze the matter without considering that the brand Tesla is making these changes and understand from a automotive/ engineering/ ergonomic point of view that whether indicator in steering has benefits compare to stalk. If it does, I'll accept that. Obviously there is always...

teslamotorsclub.com

Not gonna say I like the stalk delete, but when's the last time you had the wheel cranked half way to the lock and wanted to put on the turn signal? Doesn't happen.

 

[johnny_cakes]

Not gonna say I like the stalk delete, but when's the last time you had the wheel cranked half way to the lock and wanted to put on the turn signal? Doesn't happen.

When's the last time your drive included roundabouts?

 

[zoomer0056]

When's the last time your drive included roundabouts?

It seems as though round-abouts are the only scenario people have difficulties with turn signals, a popular edge case. However, I go through one or two round-abouts (depends on the route) where I live and turn signals are not necessary. In fact they could send a wrong signal (pun intended). They are very small round-abouts of very slow traffic. Nobody uses signals here, its a small low key community.

 

[Adam3]

Coworker still hates the stalkless design on their model S. other people say it's no big deal. YMMV I guess.

 

[fasteddie7]

Coworker still hates the stalkless design on their model S. other people say it's no big deal. YMMV I guess.

The more I read posts about it the more it looks like a can't please everyone feature. Some will love it and think it's a step toward the future, some will not care for it but tolerate it for the sake of enjoying other aspects of the car, some will dismiss it and buy something else. I'd say a lot of the sudden complaints come from others watching the video and deciding they don't like it vs having tried it and not liking it, otherwise there would have been a lot more complaints after the new S and X started delivering. I went back to look at those threads and the vast majority of owners speak positively of not only the signals, but the gear shift as well. The only truly polarizing feature was the yolk vs the wheel. Definitely take a test drive in a stalkless vehicle first, then you can decide through experience. Wonder if other automakers will follow suit?

 

[Macb00kemdanno]