Wow nice to know they are fixing the pano problems. At first I was sure I will get a model S without a pano roof just to avoid the noise and leak problems down the road. Now I feel a bit better at getting the option. Hopefully this new version will solve the leak and noise problem long term.
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My $.02. It looks like both the old and new pano style are being produced interchangeably. For those deliveries in the past month with the old and new style, perhaps they were produced in different facilities, ie Palo Alto or Fremont?
I am new to all of this (expecting delivery in the next couple of weeks), but the wiki notes that the 11th digit of the VIN is either F or P, depending on location of production. Are there cars being produced in Palo Alto currently?
I am new to all of this (expecting delivery in the next couple of weeks), but the wiki notes that the 11th digit of the VIN is either F or P, depending on location of production. Are there cars being produced in Palo Alto currently?
Palo Alto was just for the Roadster. Tesla currently builds all cars at their Fremont plant.
jeffro01
Active Member
I think the distance is the same but the openings aren't so a different kit will be needed for the old pano vs the new pano.
Jeff
Gizmotoy
Active Member
I completely missed this change back in July. Looks great. The original Pano roof is OK, but pretty clunky. Mine shimmies and stutters its way open, even after receiving maybe 3 or 4 proactive fixes for things over the years. I know they've had tons of minor revisions, and it's good news to see that it got a full redesign... it seems to have needed one.
As a bonus the little mounting flaps seem to be less likely to pop up/off during blow drying. Breaking those doors on the older cars used to be a pretty expensive fix (and may still be).
As a bonus the little mounting flaps seem to be less likely to pop up/off during blow drying. Breaking those doors on the older cars used to be a pretty expensive fix (and may still be).
Dborn
Confirmed
the whispbars are adjustable as to width. So there should be no issue there. The mounting kit may or may not be different. Looking at the photos I don't think so.
I got p90D red delivered Aug 28 Vin 098---.
Has exactly same problem. Took it back to villa park SC IL. I have been told since then on weekly basis that this panel needs to be replaced and I should have it in a week. Long behold I went myself to service center on 10/30. After some long inquiry I was informed that this is new part and there is no definite date of delivery from warehouse. It could take few months. Tesla is currently making parts for new orders only.
I understand issue with parts but for a car of this value it's really unfortunate decision to ramp up supply without replacement parts. With this kind of panel it should never be out of final inspection with out getting fixed. I left service center little frustrated. no wonder consumer report had to come out with new review.
Fcurvetweaker
Member
I just looked closer at my Aug 2015 delivered 85D with pano (VIN 0980xx) and my roof pieces look nicely flushed. I don't notice any sounds and the wind noise is minimal.
My problem is I just got the Whispbar, but there's not a new attachment kit.
At the service center they were equally surprised.
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I can confirm that a new mounting kit is needed. Just hit that at the Santa Barbara service center.
Fcurvetweaker
Member
Update:
Apparently the mounting kit is included with Whispbar, but the instructions were not so that how the service center misunderstood. Once I get the kit and the instructions and put the roof rack on I will take some pictures and post them.
Apparently the mounting kit is included with Whispbar, but the instructions were not so that how the service center misunderstood. Once I get the kit and the instructions and put the roof rack on I will take some pictures and post them.
Can you confirm the old whispbar mounting kit can be used on the new style sunroof?
Fcurvetweaker
Member
No.
For my Aug 2015 85D (new pano) when the Santa Barbara service center tried to install the Whispbar Flush Bar using the old mounting kit, it didn't work. In particular there's one screw that's the wrong size.
However, what they discovered (after I had left) in talking to Palo Alto design center, is that the Whispbar that they sell actually does include the new mounting kit that should work with my car. Once I get the part and install I will be able to confirm that it works.
Noelis
Member
Hi,
In Belgium we had a Tesla colleague that has broken the glass of his panoramic roof after mounting a Thule roof rack.
After opening the roof more than 55% it broke the glass.
There's not much info about it... except a small image in the manual without explanation.
I'm wondering if the NEW panoramic roof is actually the reason why this happens.
Do we have people with a NEW roof using whispbars? Are you still able to open the panoramic roof?
br,
Christian
In Belgium we had a Tesla colleague that has broken the glass of his panoramic roof after mounting a Thule roof rack.
After opening the roof more than 55% it broke the glass.
There's not much info about it... except a small image in the manual without explanation.
I'm wondering if the NEW panoramic roof is actually the reason why this happens.
Do we have people with a NEW roof using whispbars? Are you still able to open the panoramic roof?
br,
Christian
It opens all the way, I have the whispbar setup. But I also had the same bar on the old style sunroof and that opened all the way too.
Food for thought, there are the rubber foot bases that come with the rack and there is another set that comes with the mount kit. You need to use the taller ones that come with the mount kit. I can see damage being done if you use the shorter ones.
Noelis
Member
Hi,
Thanks for the reply it was done with the Thule sets.
Thule reported that it is a known limitation that the roof can not be used anymore.
"Works as designed"
I also received information from Tesla parts that the Whispbar has no issues with opening the roof.
Beginning next week I'll have a new set.
Greetings from rainy Belgium,
br
Christian
Thanks for the reply it was done with the Thule sets.
Thule reported that it is a known limitation that the roof can not be used anymore.
"Works as designed"
I also received information from Tesla parts that the Whispbar has no issues with opening the roof.
Beginning next week I'll have a new set.
Greetings from rainy Belgium,
br
Christian
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