Coolio2000
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What on earth does Tesla needing to be vegan have to do with the stock price?
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jkirkwood001
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I fart methane gas in your general direction.
JRP3
Hyperactive Member
Plenty of evidence that meat does not offer health benefits and in many cases may be detrimental. Also plenty of evidence that the emissions of agriculture are far more than just recycled CO2. It's not just the CO2 from livestock, it's also the far more powerful methane they produce as well as the emissions of planting and harvesting all the crops produced to feed them. Just as it's more efficient to use solar panels to directly charge EV's instead of the hydrogen fuel cell production chain it's more efficient to plant crops to directly feed humans.
How much of the world’s land would we need in order to feed the global population with the average diet of a given country?
Livestock takes up nearly 80% of global agricultural land, yet produces less than 20% of the world’s supply of calories (as shown in the visualization). This means that what we eat is more important than how much we eat in determining the amount of land required to produce our food. As we get...
ourworldindata.org
JRP3
Hyperactive Member
I did a little reading on the subject, but haven't done a deep dive. Also found this article interesting but also didn't deep dive.
Why Eating Meat is Good for The Environment: Follow the Science
Why eating meat is good for the environment: Cows and ruminants build and maintain top soil as sources of natural fertilizer.www.doctorkiltz.com
I do think statistics aren't always as clear as we might think, especially when we apply our bias to them i.e. whether we are a vegan or a meat eater.
Holistic Grazing Myths — Truth or Drought
Myth: Livestock grazing, when done right, is beneficial and necessary.
www.truthordrought.com
When SpaceX settles on Vega's planets, it will make a big difference in the stock price.
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The more animal flesh consumed, the faster one will have a chronic illness and endure premature death, but don't let the data stop you . . . sometimes one can tell well in advance when someone's mind is already made up and does not wish to be bothered with any facts. This is one of those times.
For others reading, here you go (assuming you don't believe that all peer-reviewed papers are fraudulent, of course):
So much ignorance in one post.
The more animal flesh consumed, the faster one will have a chronic illness and endure premature death, but don't let the data stop you . . . sometimes one can tell well in advance when someone's mind is already made up and does not wish to be bothered with any facts. This is one of those times.
For others reading, here you go (assuming you don't believe that all peer-reviewed papers are fraudulent, of course):
Simple.
Look at Tesla's mission.
Look at the facts related to animal consumption.
You can't square the circle--Tesla has to become the world's largest vegan company if they are to remain true to their mission statement and not be hypocrites. People don't like hypocrites, or companies run by same.
It's why Tesla's products are 100% vegan, despite two shareholder resolutions in the previous decade which failed by upwards of 99% of the shareholder votes, IIRC. Tesla's leadership team GETS IT, despite the many, many Tesla shareholders living in the land of ignorance and make believe . . . .
Step back. You come at me in an investment forum to preach your veganism? Then you call me ignorant and close minded? What the heck is wrong with you?
How about you put your health status where your mouth is.
- Can you lift as much weight as me?
- Can you run as fast as me? (no distance, I only do sprints)
- Is you resting heart rate as low as mine?
- Are you as lean as me?
JRP3
Hyperactive Member
Anecdote is not data. Actual research is fairly clear the less meat you eat the longer you're likely to live. Fish may be an exception.
JRP3
Hyperactive Member
Best for all to avoid mind-bending steroids.
Recommend a review of the facts and morality of animal consumption--by any measure it's the single most destructive thing the vast majority will do in their entire lifetimes.
Putting animal flesh on a fork is directly in contrast to Tesla's mission. Period.
Factual reminders?
Start at the top and work your way down:
I'm sorry if the facts cause some minds to melt; as adults in incumbent upon us to act as such, and take action to mitigate the threats posed by unchecked GHG dumping.
A great place to begin is take flesh off your forks.
Another aftershock earthquake of the 6.0+ variety in Turkey/Syria...
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www.reuters.com
Panic as Turkey, Syria rocked again by 6.3M earthquake
A magnitude 6.3 earthquake struck southern Turkey near the Syrian border late on Monday, setting off panic and further damaging buildings two weeks after the country's worst earthquake in modern history left tens of thousands dead.
www.reuters.com
You don't get the concept of Right Time, Right Place.Best for all to avoid mind-bending steroids.
Recommend a review of the facts and morality of animal consumption--by any measure it's the single most destructive thing the vast majority will do in their entire lifetimes.
Putting animal flesh on a fork is directly in contrast to Tesla's mission. Period.
Factual reminders?
Start at the top and work your way down:
I'm sorry if the facts cause some minds to melt; as adults in incumbent upon us to act as such, and take action to mitigate the threats posed by unchecked GHG dumping.
A great place to begin is take flesh off your forks.
Is it EVER the wrong time to do the right thing? Or does a personal addiction blind you to facts right before your eyes?
”Every time you spend money you‘re casting a vote for the kind of world you want.”
—Anna Lappe
Notice: this is so off topic so it'll probably just go away. That said...
Fighting ‘Woke AI,’ Musk Recruits Team to Develop OpenAI Rival
Elon Musk has approached artificial intelligence researchers in recent weeks about forming a new research lab to develop an alternative to ChatGPT, the high-profile chatbot made by the startup OpenAI, according to two people with direct knowledge of the effort and a third person briefed on the ...www.theinformation.com
Feb. 27, 2023 4:32 PM PST
Photo: Twitter CEO Elon Musk. Art: Shane Burke/Photo: Bloomberg
Elon Musk has approached artificial intelligence researchers in recent weeks about forming a new research lab to develop an alternative to ChatGPT, the high-profile chatbot made by the startup OpenAI, according to two people with direct knowledge of the effort and a third person briefed on the conversations.
In recent months Musk has repeatedly criticized OpenAI for installing safeguards that prevent ChatGPT from producing text that might offend users. Musk, who co-founded OpenAI in 2015 but has since cut ties with the startup, suggested last year that OpenAI’s technology was an example of “training AI to be woke.” His comments imply that a rival chatbot would have fewer restrictions on divisive subjects compared to ChatGPT and a related chatbot Microsoft recently launched.
To spearhead the effort, Musk has been recruiting Igor Babuschkin, a researcher who recently left Alphabet’s DeepMind AI unit and specializes in the kind of machine-learning models that power chatbots like ChatGPT. In an interview, Babuschkin said building a chatbot with fewer content safeguards is not Musk’s objective.
If the output of ChatGPT is too "woke", just feed it to a (Harlem) "jive" filter, where it won't be politically correct unless
you know it's parody.
Yet, according to the origin story of woke, it's from African American Vernacular English, but without the parody.
Where ‘woke’ came from and why marketers should think twice before jumping on the social activism bandwagon
The “woke” concept peaked on the back of the Black Lives Matter movement, then became a marketing trend. Now being woke is tricky territory.
theconversation.com
For amusement only, try jive translation of something that ChatGPT won't do, ala:
6 things ChatGPT can't do (and another 20 it refuses to do)
Is ChatGPT biased? Here's why it won't discuss politics or respond to these 20 controversial questions.
www.zdnet.com
Like say para #2 of item #3, or
"Furthermore, discussing partisan political issues could be perceived as biased or potentially offensive to some users. As a language model designed to serve a broad range of users with diverse backgrounds and beliefs, it's important to remain neutral and avoid creating a potentially uncomfortable or divisive environment. While I can provide factual information about political issues, I strive to remain impartial and avoid taking a partisan stance on any topic."
Low chance it is this but some cars had wire harnesses where the tri-camera feeds were swapped.
Krugerrand
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Just asking; what’s going on with the keyboard on your device of late? Or are you suddenly suffering from fat finger syndrome. Recently your posts have gone from literally zero typos, zero wrong spellings, zero punctuation issues to all sorts of stuffs.
Traveling. Typing on iPhone. Tired. Old and Irritated. Coping with old clients asking about things they should have done last year. Bad typist.Just asking; what’s going on with the keyboard on your device of late? Or are you suddenly suffering from fat finger syndrome. Recently your posts have gone from literally zero typos, zero wrong spellings, zero punctuation issues to all sorts of stuffs.
I feel stupid... but I want this. Our mountain bike club has a brand they bust out for special events like tools, shoes, passed out drunks...
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