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I'm very familiar with the products. I had early editions of all the stuff. All high quality stuff for sure but I opted to move away from the sphericals and go back to OEM. I'm sure they have made revisions since then.
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Ohlins R&T landing in the USA as soon as May
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Okay, with the rear suspension on including rear pillowball top hats...I do have a bit of added low speed NVH. When it's quiet out e.g. at night I can detect faint clunk or clatter over rough roads, and sometimes a faint bird chirp as well.
At some point I'll try figuring out exactly which moving parts these sounds are coming from. Could be the pillowballs themselves, or could be the pillowballs just transmit noises that would be swallowed by the stock rubber top hats.
The noises are quiet enough that if I never silence them, I'll still be very happy with the car, assuming they don't get worse of course. They also passed the wife test...she hasn't made any comment on them and I think didn't notice them so far, except when I specifically mentioned the faint bird chirp.
The way it drives now with the "performance sport" coilovers and the top hats and the FLCA bushings...
. Definitely needed the rear suspension in to get the proper benefit! Full review will wait for alignment + lots of twisties + late night empty ramps, and also testing different damper settings. (And I'll post it in a new thread, not this one which I know is supposed to be about the upcoming R&T kit.)
At some point I'll try figuring out exactly which moving parts these sounds are coming from. Could be the pillowballs themselves, or could be the pillowballs just transmit noises that would be swallowed by the stock rubber top hats.
The noises are quiet enough that if I never silence them, I'll still be very happy with the car, assuming they don't get worse of course. They also passed the wife test...she hasn't made any comment on them and I think didn't notice them so far, except when I specifically mentioned the faint bird chirp.
The way it drives now with the "performance sport" coilovers and the top hats and the FLCA bushings...
. Definitely needed the rear suspension in to get the proper benefit! Full review will wait for alignment + lots of twisties + late night empty ramps, and also testing different damper settings. (And I'll post it in a new thread, not this one which I know is supposed to be about the upcoming R&T kit.)Anyone prioritizing minimal NVH should of course stick with factory rubber top hats. These pillowballs are completely optional from Redwood, by default you just reuse the stock rubber top hats.
I'm happy with my choice. But minimal NVH was never my goal, as mentioned earlier.
Beyond the huge handling upgrade the car has a touch of rawness to it now that I credit the spherical top hats and maybe FLCA bearings for. That slight raw edge was something I missed from my last sporty car (with various mount and bushing upgrades).
The rawness is all relative of course. It hasn't become a Lotus Elise or anything like that!
I'm happy with my choice. But minimal NVH was never my goal, as mentioned earlier.
Beyond the huge handling upgrade the car has a touch of rawness to it now that I credit the spherical top hats and maybe FLCA bearings for. That slight raw edge was something I missed from my last sporty car (with various mount and bushing upgrades).The rawness is all relative of course. It hasn't become a Lotus Elise or anything like that!
To add some clarity...the clatter (it's not a clunk) only happens over rough patches and is very faint, it's drowned out by the normal tire impact noise that happens at the same time. I think it's exactly the level of extra NVH one should expect from spherical bearing top hats. I honestly don't care if I never get rid of this sound, it's faint background noise that blends in with tire noise and doesn't bother me at all.Okay, with the rear suspension on including rear pillowball top hats...I do have a bit of added low speed NVH. When it's quiet out e.g. at night I can detect faint clunk or clatter over rough roads, and sometimes a faint bird chirp as well.
At some point I'll try figuring out exactly which moving parts these sounds are coming from. Could be the pillowballs themselves, or could be the pillowballs just transmit noises that would be swallowed by the stock rubber top hats.
The noises are quiet enough that if I never silence them, I'll still be very happy with the car, assuming they don't get worse of course. They also passed the wife test...she hasn't made any comment on them and I think didn't notice them so far, except when I specifically mentioned the faint bird chirp.
The way it drives now with the "performance sport" coilovers and the top hats and the FLCA bushings...
The distant bird chirp sound stands out more, and I'm not sure it has anything to do with the pillowballs. At highway speeds I can't hear the chirp at all, and during the day when things are busy with lots of ambient noise I mostly can't hear it either, but when I can hear it - uneven roads at low speeds when it's quiet out - the high pitch of the chirp certainly stands out. This noise I am going to make a serious go at finding and silencing. My first thought is it could be from movement / rubbing of the rear suspension's divorced spring setup, with the helper spring it now has. Just a guess. I've asked Redwood if they have any suggestion of what to look for or try first, if they've encountered this bird chirp sound before.
Have MCS 2WNR with spherical upper mount myself and the little increase in NVH doesn't bother me.Anyone prioritizing minimal NVH should of course stick with factory rubber top hats. These pillowballs are completely optional from Redwood, by default you just reuse the stock rubber top hats.
I'm happy with my choice. But minimal NVH was never my goal, as mentioned earlier.
The rawness is all relative of course. It hasn't become a Lotus Elise or anything like that!
@Motion122 This pic is for you!
Spotted on a shelf at my friend's hobbyist shop. We don't know whose they are or what car they're for, but they do look purdy. Even if they're no gold/yellow Redwood Öhlins or Öhlins R&T.
Spotted on a shelf at my friend's hobbyist shop. We don't know whose they are or what car they're for, but they do look purdy. Even if they're no gold/yellow Redwood Öhlins or Öhlins R&T.
And expensive!@Motion122 This pic is for you!
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Spotted on a shelf at my friend's hobbyist shop. We don't know whose they are or what car they're for, but they do look purdy. Even if they're no gold/yellow Redwood Öhlins or Öhlins R&T.
Here is mine before the install.
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Wow that's a sharp looking setup.And expensive!
Here is mine before the install.
The nicer your spring colors, the faster your cornering speeds right? Pretty sure that's how it works. I thought my gold/yellow setup was good but I didn't even think about going full two-tone!
For sure! More colorful the faster the car is!Wow that's a sharp looking setup.
The nicer your spring colors, the faster your cornering speeds right? Pretty sure that's how it works. I thought my gold/yellow setup was good but I didn't even think about going full two-tone!
Now available at Redwood Motorsports! Ohlins 'Road & Track' DFV coilovers for Model 3 / Model Y. Hop on our website Model 3 Öhlins - Standard 'Road & Track' Kit AND Model Y Öhlins - Standard 'Road & Track' Kit for more information!
Information about the official Ohlins release including specs, additional discussion and RWMS accesories/options in the following thread:
teslamotorsclub.com
This is the more affordable entry level Ohlins kit manufactured by Ohlins Sweden... lower initial price point (though much higher spring rates, cheaper steel front forks, a more agressive Street/Track focus. We will be offering all of our Redwood Ohlins DFV upgrades along with the standard kits (billet front forks, bump stop limiters, billet remote adjusters, floating top hats etc.). We are still full swing on all custom Redwood Ohlins DFV kits, but this is a nice affordable option to be more price competitive with the KW and other offerings. Bang for buck a really great value!
-RWMS
Information about the official Ohlins release including specs, additional discussion and RWMS accesories/options in the following thread:
Vendor - Redwood Motorsports - Official factory 'Road & Track' Ohlins kit release, pre-order, specs, RWMS Ohlins accessories, and discussion!
Now available at Redwood Motorsports! Ohlins 'Road & Track' DFV coilovers for Model 3. Visit-> Model 3 Öhlins - Standard 'Road & Track' Kit to pre-order your kit today! Now available at Redwood Motorsports! Ohlins 'Road & Track' DFV coilovers for Model Y. Visit-> Model Y Öhlins -...
teslamotorsclub.com
This is the more affordable entry level Ohlins kit manufactured by Ohlins Sweden... lower initial price point (though much higher spring rates, cheaper steel front forks, a more agressive Street/Track focus. We will be offering all of our Redwood Ohlins DFV upgrades along with the standard kits (billet front forks, bump stop limiters, billet remote adjusters, floating top hats etc.). We are still full swing on all custom Redwood Ohlins DFV kits, but this is a nice affordable option to be more price competitive with the KW and other offerings. Bang for buck a really great value!
-RWMS
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Car is aligned and all discernable noises taken care of, no more pillowball clatter (was 1 of the rears only) or damper shaft chirp (was both of the rears). The car feels better than ever. Full driving impressions coming in a week or three, in a new thread.
(And that, I promise, is my final pillowball top hats NVH tangent in this thread! Back to the topic at hand, Öhlins R&T, which don't come with top hats.)
Yeah I was never able to hear those noises at highway speeds, drowned out by the car's normal road and wind noise. But now the extra noises are gone / indiscernable even at low speeds.
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