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Oktane got banned - what did I miss?

Discussion in 'Site Feedback' started by calisnow, Sep 20, 2017.

  1. AnxietyRanger

    AnxietyRanger Well-Known Member

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    I don't think it is that simple.

    Progress and views are tested over time and sometimes we find they were good or bad, quite independent of how we felt of them at the time. Some progress we are comfortable with and yet it ends up being a terrible mistake - and vice-versa. :)
     
  2. malcolm

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    The problem with the "tested over time" approach is that it biases toward the status quo.

    In the case of cars, it concludes in favour of industry norms.

    In that light, you are compelled to assess Tesla's actions as a "terrible mistake" because they do not comply with the average. And probably won't for a good while yet.
     
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  3. AnxietyRanger

    AnxietyRanger Well-Known Member

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    That's not what I meant. I meant we will know - to some extent at least - over time what disruptions worked and what did not. I definitely like to reflect on past disruptions and how I felt about them at the time. I don't think what you are saying applies to me, at least.

    I can see many disruptions I wasn't comfortable with that I now see as helpful, while on the other hand seeing disruptions I was rooting for that did not prevail - and good that they didn't. And everything in-between. Hindsight is 20:20.

    What I don't agree with is the implied thinking that because Tesla is disruptive, everything they do must automatically be necessary and good for said disruption.

    I think one can be disruptive and still be prone to errors - so it is useful that those potential errors are called out or at least challenged, so they can be looked at. Feedback is good.
     
  4. kort677

    kort677 Banned

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    or my favorite the media here in FLA loves to run with, did you know that there might be sharks in the ocean?
     
  5. AnxietyRanger

    AnxietyRanger Well-Known Member

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    By the way, one very good way of looking at this perception difference is the welcome post.

    Someone rolls into TMC with 1 post to their name, all excited about Tesla and their new car (posting maybe something like this: "Car market literally down to 2 cars today")... Maybe they post even downright misinformation, they are new after all so it is understandable they don't know better...

    In what spirit do you welcome them?

    Do you welcome them as friends to a party, ignoring politely their gibberish because this is not the time or the place, or do you dive into the subject matter like with any thread...

    I see most responses as valid depending on your PoV for the purpose of a place like this. Some compromise in-between is probably what I'd go for.
     
  6. malcolm

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    Wait, there's a playbook for disruptive behaviour?

    Henry Ford
     
  7. kort677

    kort677 Banned

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    therein lies the biggest issue with forums like this. in a social situation if you encounter a boor, a fool or a severely opinionated person you excuse yourself from the conversation and move on, on boards like this people tend to challenge those types with their own booring,foolish heavily opinionated comments.
     
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  8. AnxietyRanger

    AnxietyRanger Well-Known Member

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    No.
     
  9. AnxietyRanger

    AnxietyRanger Well-Known Member

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    That's just the thing. What exactly IS this social situation we're in? It isn't as easily identified as many formal or traditional informal functions.

    Is this a social gathering of Tesla fans? Or is this, for example, a special interest group for exchanging Tesla related information?

    These extremes would probably require different behavior...
     
  10. kort677

    kort677 Banned

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    as the car has gone more mainstream the site has evolved from the geeky techie early enthusiasts for whom elon is like a deity to more average people who bought into the concept to those who just bought a car. some are wide eyed evangelicals while others are more grounded about their purchase.
     
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  11. TexasEV

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    It was a lot more fun when it was mostly early enthusiasts, and people cared more about Tesla's cars and mission than TSLA stock.
     
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  12. Electroman

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    #92 Electroman, Sep 23, 2017
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    anticitizen - Informative? You found "gfy" Informative? -:)
     
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  13. anticitizen13.7

    anticitizen13.7 Not posting at TMC after 9/17/2018

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    The post does say a lot about the person writing it.
     
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  14. oktane

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    I'm baaack.... after a mandatory ban. The reasons for the ban are not entirely clear, other than my posts amounted to "snippiness".

    @calisnow - I appreciate the support and flattered that someone would care enough about me to start a thread, thanks for that.

    I see the other members have also returned, music to my ears. Hope I didn't miss much. Is autopilot working yet?
     
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  15. kort677

    kort677 Banned

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    be wary of breaking the parole
     
  16. KrenGrl

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    Not missed by me. Just disagrees all the time.
     

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