I just read an entertaining thread at Why aren't car review sites raving about the Model 3 Performance's amazing value? : teslamotors and recalled that my P3D+ buying decision was far from black and white. I decided to compile my main reasons where Tesla limits me compared to a non Tesla sports car that I had or I could have purchased and modified to achieve a close performance level for considerably less money.
But first briefly about my priorities. I value my everyday fun and excitement of those few turns and bends on my way to work and back, and also when getting to/from mountains to ski/hike/climb. That feeling that I executed that boring turn on the streets close to optimal manner and close to the edge of traction. The feeling of the car dancing from turn to turn on a twisty road. I do like to open up my turns on some nice twisty side roads we have in the region. I value the freedom to execute a maneuver on a busy highway when my neurons fire. I also value a car that I can fit my skis and my bike into and can fit a friend or two with their stuff. I don't target a super fun to drive car to take it out a couple of days a month while I drive something more practical and less exciting most of the time. I like beautiful lines and form meeting function well, and well engineered interior and exterior, but I can sacrifice quite a bit for a sleeper looking car driving which puts a bigger smile on my face.
So, here's a list of where I feel somewhat limited in my driving P3D+ fun.
- I can't take my Tesla to some of my favorite roads in the state because the range drops quite a bit when driving in a really spirited way and there are not enough superchargers and destination chargers around.
- On some other roads I have to drive conservatively and can't have as much fun to make it back home. Example, I would not make a 170 miles roundtrip (with 4500ft elevation gain & drop) to my favorite ski resort from a full charge if I don't drive conservatively. Yeah, yeah, more air resistance at faster speeds, winter tires, 20" rims, lower temps and all of that but still.
- I miss that feeling of railing through a turn when the suspension and the body have flexed and the tires grip and I know the car is not going anywhere from the curve even I am close to the limit of traction. I don't get this feeling from P3D+ on many tighter street turns and highway ramps I had dialed my reflexes in for. Tesla could still have faster exit speed thanks to the ability to accelerate out but I don't get as much of that reliable-friend feeling. The turn dynamics in Tesla in such turns are different. However, there are plenty of turns I get more excitement and perfection compared to my old Audi.
- I am not as brave throwing Tesla into a slide (nothing too dramatic like you see in the movies) in a turn or entering a turn faster and relying on my ability to correct. While the Tesla does at least 90% of such turns better than my previous car its behavior surprised and scared me a couple of times where front wheels or all 4 wheels lost traction. At these times the softer suspension, that I applaud to most of the time, combined with the weight made course correction much slower while the body swang from side to side. I may change my opinion in time once I observe P3D+ in these situations more but I've pushed 2-3 cars that I had regularly driven beyond their limit of traction and remained in my comfort zone. Note that we are not talking about a race track, just streets and highway ramps.
- In the snow this 80-20 or 90-10 becomes more like 50-50 where Tesla looses a part of my confidence on slippery packed snow compared my old Audi S4 with exact same winter tires. There are also maneuvers such as entering a snowy road through a pile of snow from a parking lot or balancing one wheel on a compacted center when the ruts in the snow are too deep for the clearance (I did try slip start mode, BTW) where the car does not execute as well as my Audi. Tesla also does not give me the same feeling of tracking through the snow when coasting or when braking slightly. There were a couple of threads of Teslamotorsclub where a P3D+ owner from CO dared to talk about Tesla inferiority on snowy roads compared to an Audi with exact same tires and was trolled by people that clearly didn't have the same experience or didn't drive their cars as fast in same conditions. So, I am a bit reluctant writing this. Don't get me wrong, there are many cases where Tesla found amazing traction in the snow, or where I for fun carefully climbed a slippery steep hill with warmish fresh snow on top of slippery compacted snow that I would not have made up in my other cars.
My Model 3 Performance puts a smile on my face every day but to me the purchase decision making is far from black and white. I hope my observations will help like-minded folks and I will get constructive advises and questions. I am also hoping to find some time to compile a wish list of handling improvements.
But first briefly about my priorities. I value my everyday fun and excitement of those few turns and bends on my way to work and back, and also when getting to/from mountains to ski/hike/climb. That feeling that I executed that boring turn on the streets close to optimal manner and close to the edge of traction. The feeling of the car dancing from turn to turn on a twisty road. I do like to open up my turns on some nice twisty side roads we have in the region. I value the freedom to execute a maneuver on a busy highway when my neurons fire. I also value a car that I can fit my skis and my bike into and can fit a friend or two with their stuff. I don't target a super fun to drive car to take it out a couple of days a month while I drive something more practical and less exciting most of the time. I like beautiful lines and form meeting function well, and well engineered interior and exterior, but I can sacrifice quite a bit for a sleeper looking car driving which puts a bigger smile on my face.
So, here's a list of where I feel somewhat limited in my driving P3D+ fun.
- I can't take my Tesla to some of my favorite roads in the state because the range drops quite a bit when driving in a really spirited way and there are not enough superchargers and destination chargers around.
- On some other roads I have to drive conservatively and can't have as much fun to make it back home. Example, I would not make a 170 miles roundtrip (with 4500ft elevation gain & drop) to my favorite ski resort from a full charge if I don't drive conservatively. Yeah, yeah, more air resistance at faster speeds, winter tires, 20" rims, lower temps and all of that but still.
- I miss that feeling of railing through a turn when the suspension and the body have flexed and the tires grip and I know the car is not going anywhere from the curve even I am close to the limit of traction. I don't get this feeling from P3D+ on many tighter street turns and highway ramps I had dialed my reflexes in for. Tesla could still have faster exit speed thanks to the ability to accelerate out but I don't get as much of that reliable-friend feeling. The turn dynamics in Tesla in such turns are different. However, there are plenty of turns I get more excitement and perfection compared to my old Audi.
- I am not as brave throwing Tesla into a slide (nothing too dramatic like you see in the movies) in a turn or entering a turn faster and relying on my ability to correct. While the Tesla does at least 90% of such turns better than my previous car its behavior surprised and scared me a couple of times where front wheels or all 4 wheels lost traction. At these times the softer suspension, that I applaud to most of the time, combined with the weight made course correction much slower while the body swang from side to side. I may change my opinion in time once I observe P3D+ in these situations more but I've pushed 2-3 cars that I had regularly driven beyond their limit of traction and remained in my comfort zone. Note that we are not talking about a race track, just streets and highway ramps.
- In the snow this 80-20 or 90-10 becomes more like 50-50 where Tesla looses a part of my confidence on slippery packed snow compared my old Audi S4 with exact same winter tires. There are also maneuvers such as entering a snowy road through a pile of snow from a parking lot or balancing one wheel on a compacted center when the ruts in the snow are too deep for the clearance (I did try slip start mode, BTW) where the car does not execute as well as my Audi. Tesla also does not give me the same feeling of tracking through the snow when coasting or when braking slightly. There were a couple of threads of Teslamotorsclub where a P3D+ owner from CO dared to talk about Tesla inferiority on snowy roads compared to an Audi with exact same tires and was trolled by people that clearly didn't have the same experience or didn't drive their cars as fast in same conditions. So, I am a bit reluctant writing this. Don't get me wrong, there are many cases where Tesla found amazing traction in the snow, or where I for fun carefully climbed a slippery steep hill with warmish fresh snow on top of slippery compacted snow that I would not have made up in my other cars.
My Model 3 Performance puts a smile on my face every day but to me the purchase decision making is far from black and white. I hope my observations will help like-minded folks and I will get constructive advises and questions. I am also hoping to find some time to compile a wish list of handling improvements.