smac
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If based on throttle position sensor % it will be worseI'll trust that driving in valet mode won't increase the counters.
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If based on throttle position sensor % it will be worseI'll trust that driving in valet mode won't increase the counters.
If based on throttle position sensor % it will be worse![]()
That's interesting. Did the SC indicate it was realtime data or perhaps data they had stored from previous visits?Service Manager placed my VIN into his laptop and pulled results. My car was in the parking lot being dropped off.
I didn't put it in bold, but I think the "other means" part covers that.Note that sending a new CAN message is not opening nor programming the battery.![]()
For me - this is THE issue. If Tesla tells me that replacing the battery will reset the counters, and remove the power reduction? AND, if normal spirited driving allows me to drive the car until I need a new battery, without hitting the power reduction? Let's say to be fair, the car at least makes 6 years of spirited driving? That would be a similar enough penalty to ICE wear and tear... that I would be OK with the implementation. Tesla reduces risk to the drive train, and still allows the owner to enjoy the car "within reason" ( which is totally subjective - for me 6 years minimum ). Until a new battery is required to reset the counters.. rinse and repeat.This is one of the questions I pushed back to Tesla last week.
Does a battery replacement reset everything so there are no limits or are there still other restrictions that will carry over and still be in place with a battery swap?
I disagree, and in any case - it doesn't matter what they put in the contract. They are governed by the same laws as other automakers, including the Moss-Magnusen warranty act.I didn't put it in bold, but I think the "other means" part covers that.
This is one of the questions I pushed back to Tesla last week.
Does a battery replacement reset everything so there are no limits or are there still other restrictions that will carry over and still be in place with a battery swap?
For me - this is THE issue. If Tesla tells me that replacing the battery will reset the counters, and remove the power reduction? AND, if normal spirited driving allows me to drive the car until I need a new battery, without hitting the power reduction? Let's say to be fair, the car at least makes 6 years of spirited driving? That would be a similar enough penalty to ICE wear and tear... that I would be OK with the implementation. Tesla reduces risk to the drive train, and still allows the owner to enjoy the car "within reason" ( which is totally subjective - for me 6 years minimum ). Until a new battery is required to reset the counters.. rinse and repeat.
I'll trust that driving in valet mode won't increase the counters.
If based on throttle position sensor % it will be worse![]()
We are going to get something soon, because either my car will get fixed or I am going to start a war.These two short posts demonstrate a huge part of the problem with this whole issue: we need more information from Tesla, and we are unlikely to get it.
no word back from tesla yet on the counters. The car is going in for service on the 24th and i will ask during the drop off about the counters.
Hi everyone,
Based on your input, we have decided to remove all software performance reductions tied to frequent max power usage. These changes will roll out with our next software update (in about three weeks).
We had put these reductions in place to proactively protect the powertrain from wear and tear. Instead, we will monitor the condition of the powertrain and let our customers know if service is needed so that we can take proactive steps, such as by replacing parts if necessary, to maintain the vehicle’s performance.
--Jon
Hi everyone,
Based on your input, we have decided to remove all software performance reductions tied to frequent max power usage. These changes will roll out with our next software update (in about three weeks).
We had put these reductions in place to proactively protect the powertrain from wear and tear. Instead, we will monitor the condition of the powertrain and let our customers know if service is needed so that we can take proactive steps, such as by replacing parts if necessary, to maintain the vehicle’s performance.
--Jon
What he said. This had all the earmarks of blowing up to something quite bad for Tesla. The pain may be just drawn out if the L cars exhibit a lot of early failure. Will Tesla offer a new upgraded pack at reduced cost or an offer to purchase a new car with a generous trade in? Only time will tell. They may have dodged a very costly PR mistake just in time and right before the model 3 roll out. As for me I will continue to step on the accelerator when taking on the Ferraris and Lambos in my car club and singing the praises of Tesla. I just don't do it with the wife in the car as she yells and punches my arm.Thank you.
Hi everyone,
Based on your input, we have decided to remove all software performance reductions tied to frequent max power usage. These changes will roll out with our next software update (in about three weeks).
We had put these reductions in place to proactively protect the powertrain from wear and tear. Instead, we will monitor the condition of the powertrain and let our customers know if service is needed so that we can take proactive steps, such as by replacing parts if necessary, to maintain the vehicle’s performance.
--Jon