boiler81
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This. Range is always wrong. Percent is always correct.
So if you get to 0% the battery has no power?
If you charge to maximum, and it stops charging at 97% then is that full?
If it's full, isn't that suppose to be 100%?
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This. Range is always wrong. Percent is always correct.
This. Tesla should just display both to end this discussion which has been going on for years.
the difference in ICE and EV....
the reason ICE gas gauges in % works so well, is because it's easy to fill up when you get low. you don't have to worry about how many miles you have left.
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you can use math to figure it out, sure. but if you don't have to.....................
With the caveat that the gas tank is also getting smaller over time. Then it's just like that.
@M3BlueGeorgia why the disagree? The battery definitely does get smaller (in terms of the available energy it contains) over time, so not much to disagree with here.
It's not out of line with the slow decreases in performance and range from an ICE engine.
Percent.
For the same reason your smartphone displace battery % and not time remaining
That is what i like to see on phones...time remaining.
I will say that I am beyond shocked at the degradation at only 16,000 miles, at this rate my car may last to 100k.. my 100% is down in the mid 280s. , that’s 9-10% and I’m annoyed.
(for one depending how you charge you might be some of that back re-calibrating the BMS- though it's only a display thing you haven't really "lost" whatever range comes back on the display in that case)
There's not actually a lot of evidence for this, other than a couple miles here and there (meaning 2-4, so insignificant relative to the loss).
Even the charge percentage is only an estimate.
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I guess you could assert that the Model 3 remaining range is less accurate than the charge percentage since (I'm pretty sure) it is just applying some estimate of expected watt-hours/mile to the estimated current state of charge (percentage), which does sort of add a layer of estimation. [...]
There's about a billion anecdotes of folks getting 5-10 miles back this way. Saw at least 2 on here today.
Here's one for example:
Sheltering in Place - Charge or not
Guy went from 290 back up to 297-299 displayed range by doing this.
When you're only talking a loss of 20~25 miles in the first place (310 original to mid 280s in the case of the guy I was replying to) that's substantial...20-40% of the perceived "loss"