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Performance Model 3 Vs. Audi RS3
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Not sure this qualifies as an “expert opinion” but it corroborates my statement about traction control latency on ICE vehicles:
Why Are Teslas Quicker Than Gas Cars? | CleanTechnica
Configured an RS3 for the hell of it. Would be an interesting “what if” in a non Tesla world.
73K MSRP for 3.9 seconds.
P3 requires no added options to come completely loaded. Cheaper than RS3 even on best negotiating day.
If you care about your kids you pony up $350 for optional air bags on RS3 lol.
Not close at all to a P3.
73K MSRP for 3.9 seconds.
P3 requires no added options to come completely loaded. Cheaper than RS3 even on best negotiating day.
If you care about your kids you pony up $350 for optional air bags on RS3 lol.
Not close at all to a P3.
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I’ve been told the Bolt has a bigger back seat than the Model 3. I’m like no one is getting laid in one so wants the point?
I’ve been told the Bolt has a bigger back seat than the Model 3. I’m like no one is getting laid in one so wants the point?
Personally I think a big advantage of the Tesla is its a great daily driver / family car that also happens to be super quick.
Also in all the real world driving scenarios the P3Ds EV torque is going to feel way faster.
0-60 (without high revs and launch control)
5-60
30-50
50-70
etc
I hope OP test drives both and reports back on his choice.
lolachampcar
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I’ve been told the Bolt has a bigger back seat than the Model 3. I’m like no one is getting laid in one so wants the point?
Sooooooo, MXW, exactly WHY did you buy the X anyway now that you bring up the subject ?
God this looks good for $75k! Better option than Performance 3
https://www.motortrend.com/cars/audi/a5/2019/2019-audi-rs5-sportback-review/
https://www.motortrend.com/cars/audi/a5/2019/2019-audi-rs5-sportback-review/
Sooooooo, MXW, exactly WHY did you buy the X anyway now that you bring up the subject ?
A consequence of getting laid is needing a vehicle large enough to haul children around.
X was purchased in 2016 anyway. No Model 3 other than on paper.
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Canuck
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I wish I was looking forward to a "P" one too. But when they rushed the RWD ones up here to take advantage of our rebates (mostly Ontario's now gone $14k rebate) and with this damn mortality thing us humans have, and only about 20 or so good, healthy summers left for this human (knock wood), I just couldn't wait -- and a wait it would really be for us up here. I thought by the time we got the 3s up here, AWD and P, would be out. When they surprisingly rushed them to us, and moved "late 2018" to early June if I "buy now", I just couldn't say no. But I'll sure be envious seeing the Ps on the roads when they arrive up here. How anyone can consider an Audi RS3 over a P3 is a head shaker for me. I'd even take a RWD 3 over that ICE -- unless I can take it, sell it, buy the RWD 3, and pocket the difference. But you won't find me driving it. Too last century.
Canuck
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Yes, I agree if I was in Ontario and got $14k off but the EV rebate is only $5k in BC. Still, I do plan to get a trade-in quote when they arrive up here.
Tesla's trade in quote will be disappointing - just to set expectations in advance. You can probably clear over $5,000 USD anywhere else without any effort.
gavine
Petrol Head turned EV Enthusiast
My problem with "fast" ICE cars is that they aren't fast unless you bring them up into their power band which isn't practical. Yes, in an all-out race, a modded RS3 could hang with the P3D, however, in every day driving, realistically, what percentage of the time would the RS3 engine be in it's power band? Maybe 1% of the time vs. 99% of the time in the P3D. You can advertise all the peak HP numbers you want, but what really matters is the actual real world (usable) power and ICE cars are not fast unless you wind-out the engine. Some have decent low-end torque but nothing like an Tesla.
RS3 peak horsepower is at 5,800RPM. Who drives around at that RPM and what kind of gas mileage would you get if you did?
RS3 peak horsepower is at 5,800RPM. Who drives around at that RPM and what kind of gas mileage would you get if you did?
Sg911
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Hmmm I wonder where’s better to take my Hellcat to trade , and get it over with now ?! Besides car max lol
To clarify, TRADE IN VALUES FOR TESLA'S @ TESLA suck.
None Tesla's, you can shop elsewhere and if its a dealer, Carmax, etc, I believe Tesla will match. Never did it but paraphrasing the experiences of others.
I love that car. But optioned out it's gonna be close to 90k. Plus I get 10k back if I get the 3, which I use to rationalize my overspending.
Canuck
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I like how the article ends with:
Here's my answer:
I need to be in Germany to take advantage of that. 40 km/hr over the speed limit here and your car is impounded 7 days, plus a huge fine and storage costs while impounded. So top end speed is that not important to me. But I do like fast, silent, instant torque -- that doesn't drain my wallet as I press my foot down. If I'm in need autobahn performance, I also need the autobahn, or a track, both things that I don't use, as well as most others.
I don't find going to the gas station "practical" at all, especially when I can get my fill of electrons at home. When I used to pull into a gas station with an ICE, the last thing that went through my mind was "genuine practicality". But, come to think of it, those words aptly describe my S and 3. The same applies when it comes to the "only game in town." Those words clearly only apply to Tesla.
There's not only the price of admission with that ICE, but oil changes, brakes, transmission and so many unnecessary moving parts, plus that weekly (at least) gas station fill-up, that up here drains our wallets much more than electricity does. Then drive it nice or you'll be getting gas twice a week. Plus, no one foot driving and no HOV. No thanks to that price of admission for me. Not worth it at all to me.
CrazyCoconut
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Once you get used to the EV life, it's hard to go back to ICE. I say this as someone who has owned an Audi R8 V10.
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