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Petition to demand "camera on top, media player on bottom" be retained in UI
- Thread starter neroden
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"the point is not really about losing the camera on top. It’s really about losing the prior configurability to put ANY app of your choosing on top, other than maps. People that don’t need maps are effectively losing use of half of the big screen. A huge downgrade on an otherwise distinguishing feature of the S/X"
Agreed
Agreed
⚡️ELECTROMAN⚡️
Village Idiot
I think I’ll go to a showroom on my next day off and see for myself if this “update” sucks or not, before I decide to install it.
Sucks for you that you have such a commute. But why should everyone have to deal with your problems? For the rest of us, with different issues and preferences, let's all hav a choice of what apps we can have shown on our touch screen. You can have your map, I can have whatever different I want. Why do I have to be forced to have your choice?
Maybe you would like to have my choice of primary display as the full-screen default and only get your NAV map as an overlay that you have to select every time you start your car?
SpudLime
Active Member
Please don’t interpret that I think you are unjustified for your complaint.
Just the extremes of the complaints is what I have issue with.
Tesla engineers and executives made the choice of streamlining the OS across the platform. It has cost savings implications and for a miriad of reasons we don’t know about.
They probably have stats on every vehicle and how folks use the interface. Most likely the percentages weren’t high enough to affect the decision to keep the split screen.
Just the extremes of the complaints is what I have issue with.
Tesla engineers and executives made the choice of streamlining the OS across the platform. It has cost savings implications and for a miriad of reasons we don’t know about.
They probably have stats on every vehicle and how folks use the interface. Most likely the percentages weren’t high enough to affect the decision to keep the split screen.
Thanks for a reasonable response. Let's hope that Teslas next update allows you to have what you prefer while I and others get what we want, whatever choices they may be.
SpudLime
Active Member
If you guys can get them to change their mind, more power to ya. I’d buy ya a beer and say congrats on your effort.
Mark Z
Active Member
Thank you MP3Mike, as I stand corrected as per your next post.
Original Post: "If just ONE child is saved from death by restoring the rear camera display to the TOP of the screen while in REVERSE, then all the complaining and lawyers fighting over this change of human factors design will be worth the effort."
However, in the past 6 years the reverse camera view has disappeared if other activity takes place while in reverse. It has required manual effort to bring the reverse camera view back. Hopefully that problem has been solved in version 9. The reverse view should always remain on the screen until the shift lever is moved from the reverse position.
Original Post: "If just ONE child is saved from death by restoring the rear camera display to the TOP of the screen while in REVERSE, then all the complaining and lawyers fighting over this change of human factors design will be worth the effort."
However, in the past 6 years the reverse camera view has disappeared if other activity takes place while in reverse. It has required manual effort to bring the reverse camera view back. Hopefully that problem has been solved in version 9. The reverse view should always remain on the screen until the shift lever is moved from the reverse position.
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But it does already go to the top when you are in reverse. (At least if you don't have the rear view camera on first.)
Sounds like many people do. I am one of them. The limited ciew caused by the middle headrest makes it convenient to use the camera also.
Also I am another that rarely uses the nav, and when I do, once the address in put it, I rely on the binnacle for my nav.
I was impressed that I had a 17 inch screen to display my apps , being mist mist u that I could use it as 2 7 inch displays. Now it is a 17 gps, wich I can open a window to access another function. Look at the screen, the second app covers part of the GPS.
This is my major complaint of the model 3 diaplay when I rented one for the day. It's a shame that it is now how my model s is configured.
I plan to do the same. In the meantime I took my car off my WiFi network to hopefully delay the software push as I don’t want to close the update window every drive.
Trebek1762
Let's play jeopardy
Bah! got the update notification...can't wait to push cancel EVERY Time i drive...
i just want 36.2!
i just want 36.2!
I just spoke with Tesla -- they are taking names and if enough people request it, they will provide a rollback to v. 8 of the software. That, IMO, is not the best response to a crappy update but it's better than nothing.
If you call Tesla early in the morning you can get someone on the phone without a huge wait -- they'll ask for the last six of your VIN and will email you when the update is finished rolling out (they're doing it in tranches) to see if you want a rollback. If they get enough requests, they'll do it. I
Make yourselves heard, O ye who don't need NAV to find your way to work every day!!
I just spoke with Tesla -- they are taking names and if enough people request it, they will provide a rollback to v. 8 of the software. That, IMO, is not the best response to a crappy update but it's better than nothing.
If you call Tesla early in the morning you can get someone on the phone without a huge wait -- they'll ask for the last six of your VIN and will email you when the update is finished rolling out (they're doing it in tranches) to see if you want a rollback. If they get enough requests, they'll do it. I
Make yourselves heard, O ye who don't need NAV to find your way to work every day!!
Trebek1762
Let's play jeopardy
I just spoke with Tesla -- they are taking names and if enough people request it, they will provide a rollback to v. 8 of the software. That, IMO, is not the best response to a crappy update but it's better than nothing.
If you call Tesla early in the morning you can get someone on the phone without a huge wait -- they'll ask for the last six of your VIN and will email you when the update is finished rolling out (they're doing it in tranches) to see if you want a rollback. If they get enough requests, they'll do it. I
Make yourselves heard, O ye who don't need NAV to find your way to work every day!!
Last we heard Tesla implemented an anti-rollback feature in the firmware, so you actually can't install an older version even if you got it pushed to your car. (It isn't entirely uncommon I know that HP has done it on some of their printers and other network equipment.)
So I sort of question whether what @jhoughton1 was told is true or not. (My guess is that it is not true.)
