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Question for the super smart here. The stability control before the track mode was set at 0 or 10?
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The one thing missing from preset settings is suspension height. Entering Track Mode defaults you to Low, so if you plan on creating a preset for the snow, I recommend adding a step to your procedure to change the suspension to High after entering Track Mode and starting to drive.Race and drift presets are included and you can easily add/create your own. You decide f/r power split and how much stability control intervention with sliders.
Probably 10 (or more), given what they wrote in the Plaid Track Mode page:Question for the super smart here. The stability control before the track mode was set at 0 or 10?
Adjustable Vehicle Dynamics
During normal road driving, our stability control systems are optimized to limit tire slippage and maximize grip to keep the driver safe.
In Plaid Track Mode, stability controls enter a Race tuning to give the driver maximum control over the car’s lateral movement. With Plaid Track Mode engaged, Tesla’s Vehicle Dynamics Controller (VDC) evaluates steering angle, accelerator, and brake pedal inputs to determine where the driver wants to place the car and will permit tire slippage and automatically adjust torque split to give the driver even more authority and improved agility during high-speed cornering.
Its not setting it anywhere near 100% or 0%. Watch the dragtimes video of the Model 3 where he compares all modes. Times are close no matter what, and there is no wheelspin in any setting.Anybody try running the draggy in any of the track settings? I'm surprised how fast the car still feels in drift mode, I figured with it set to 100% rear power it would feel slow with out the front motor working, the car still feels just as fast lol. I got a feeling the front is not totally off. I even set the car up once with 100% to the front wheels and it still pulled very hard.
Yes, the stability program is completely different, and much better.Probably 10 (or more), given what they wrote in the Plaid Track Mode page:
That's expected, if you going straight - it will keep full power on both axles. It only drops power on 1 axle for dynamics control (turn-in and under/over steering) and bias that based on your track mode settings.Anybody try running the draggy in any of the track settings? I'm surprised how fast the car still feels in drift mode, I figured with it set to 100% rear power it would feel slow with out the front motor working, the car still feels just as fast lol. I got a feeling the front is not totally off. I even set the car up once with 100% to the front wheels and it still pulled very hard.
None of that. It works different and +/-10 is only bias of how much it will fight under/over steer.Question for the super smart here. The stability control before the track mode was set at 0 or 10?
I appreciate you sharing. Some would have never admitted to that. I am glad you didn’t messI got to explore Track mode a little yesterday. Suspension is definitely stiffer than even the stiffest standard suspension setting. Power feels down compared to standard Plaid mode but still stout. Dash graphics are pretty neat and drag mode/launch control still work with track mode.
*WARNING* Experimented with the Drift preset...and nearly crashed the Plaid. The yoke and drifting just don't play nice together. For the first time since owning the car I realized a detriment of the yoke. In large steering angle/oversteer situations you are f*cked. Knowing drifting this thing could be tricky I experimented on a 3 lane sweeper (plenty of room and no other cars on the road). It will get sideways alright! The car went progressively sideways but when it was time to apply quick counter steer to control the yaw, the yoke was crossed up, and the correction went all bad. I grabbed a big handful of air. By the time I grabbed the yoke correctly I was over rotated with too much yaw to pull back. I controlled the spin as best I could and ended up doing a 360 in the middle of the sweeper. No damage, no drama, but might of peed myself a little LOL.
This needs a proper steering wheel to drift properly or a lot more practice with the yolk. Be careful out there!
Yep, and not just for drifting - having a proper round wheel will be much safer when tracking on a closed circuit with corners (not talking about a straight-line drag street, but a proper track).*WARNING* Experimented with the Drift preset...and nearly crashed the Plaid. The yoke and drifting just don't play nice together. For the first time since owning the car I realized a detriment of the yoke. In large steering angle/oversteer situations you are f*cked. Knowing drifting this thing could be tricky I experimented on a 3 lane sweeper (plenty of room and no other cars on the road). It will get sideways alright! The car went progressively sideways but when it was time to apply quick counter steer to control the yaw, the yoke was crossed up, and the correction went all bad. I grabbed a big handful of air. By the time I grabbed the yoke correctly I was over rotated with too much yaw to pull back. I controlled the spin as best I could and ended up doing a 360 in the middle of the sweeper. No damage, no drama, but might of peed myself a little LOL.
This needs a proper steering wheel to drift properly or a lot more practice with the yolk. Be careful out there!
What’s the maximum outside of Track Mode?Quick test on Track Mode shows that regen can go up to just over 100kW
Thanks a lot for posting.Quick test on Track Mode shows that regen can go up to just over 100kW
I’ve seen up to about 90kWWhat’s the maximum outside of Track Mode?
Sure thing!Thanks a lot for posting.
Was it together with pressing brake pedal? Or regen only? Can you make log recording of all channels and post the file?
I assume at 66% and 21C battery Plaid can charge faster than 103 KW? If so, that's quite low limit
Also, if road was dry, tires warm and brake pedal at the limit - that means we should expect 2x more heat dissipation requirement of front Vs rear brakes.
Very interesting. I wonder how much it’s capable of regen-ing at most?Sure thing!
It was regen only, no braking.
Agreed 103kW was low. I just went out again just now and got up to 130kW. It looks like it’s speed-dependent (higher speed = higher regen limit) and it’s very dynamic. Yesterday evening, I just drove on city streets, so speeds were low.
I took a log of my latest drive on Track Mode just now, on highways and twisty hills. Took a screen recording and tesLAX log once I was in the hills - see below.
Unfortunately, the roads were very wet in the hills today due to rain, so I did not push at all. Mostly tested regen (don’t think I even tested WOT accelerations, as I was feeling the rear end wobble a bit on the wet under hard acceleration, which was not a great feeling).
Enjoy!
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@MarcG can you do a test with full accel in Track Mode vs. Drag Mode so we can see if it is limiting output when you get a chance and weather (and most importantly safety) permits? I've heard multiple times and seen that it looks quite a bit slower than normal DS Mode. @omarsultan got ~818kW from the battery (not motor power) in his Cheetah Stance tests.Sure thing!
It was regen only, no braking.
Agreed 103kW was low. I just went out again just now and got up to 130kW. It looks like it’s speed-dependent (higher speed = higher regen limit) and it’s very dynamic. Yesterday evening, I just drove on city streets, so speeds were low.
I took a log of my latest drive on Track Mode just now, on highways and twisty hills. Took a screen recording and tesLAX log once I was in the hills - see below.
Unfortunately, the roads were very wet in the hills today due to rain, so I did not push at all. Mostly tested regen (don’t think I even tested WOT accelerations, as I was feeling the rear end wobble a bit on the wet under hard acceleration, which was not a great feeling).
Enjoy!
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Yep I can do that once the roads dry, likely tomorrow.@MarcG can you do a test with full accel in Track Mode vs. Drag Mode so we can see if it is limiting output when you get a chance and weather (and most importantly safety) permits? I've heard multiple times and seen that it looks quite a bit slower than normal DS Mode. @omarsultan got ~818kW from the battery (not motor power) in his Cheetah Stance tests.