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Prediction: Coal has fallen. Nuclear is next then Oil.

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All we need is 25000 square miles for solar panels and you have a deal đź‘Ť

Ontario is spending $20B to refurbish a 10GW nuclear fleet, which will be paid by increases in energy costs to consumers.
That same money would buy 40GW of solar power.
Ontario has 5 million occupied dwellings, if every one deployed 8kW of solar, that is 40GW.
Ontario has 1.076 million km² by the way.
 
Bloomberg: Plug Power to Bring Wind-Powered Hydrogen Plant to Fort Worth.

TX just has too much wind. Instead of connecting to the national grid, they want to sell hydrogen. More money, I guess.
 
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OilPrice.com: Russia Is Making A Mad Dash To Outrun Peak Oil Demand.

Literally a fire sale. 🔥

Guess fossil fuel 'scientists' will see the demanf of their marketing service skyrocket.
 
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Interesting post from an Australian perspective.

For those who don't know Evan (evcricket), he worked for Tesla building out their original supercharger network in Australia, and more recently Chargefox doing the same with their 350 kW charging network.


We don't have any nuclear power stations in Australia. Most fossil fuel generation (between 0% and 70% depending on the state) is coal. (stats here) We have fantastic opportunities for solar/wind, yet you hear people saying that we need to switch towards nuclear. This is his rebuttal to that.
 
Interesting post from an Australian perspective.

For those who don't know Evan (evcricket), he worked for Tesla building out their original supercharger network in Australia, and more recently Chargefox doing the same with their 350 kW charging network.


We don't have any nuclear power stations in Australia. Most fossil fuel generation (between 0% and 70% depending on the state) is coal. (stats here) We have fantastic opportunities for solar/wind, yet you hear people saying that we need to switch towards nuclear. This is his rebuttal to that.

Except for the startup pricing for the first nuclear power plant in Australia, that analysis can pretty much be used anywhere!
 
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Has anyone done any study on impact of going hydrogen? Seems we are going to have leaks, and hydrogen tend to float into space... is there anything in the atmosphere that will react with it so it comes back down to Earth?

When you say "going hydrogen" - it's not really a generation method in the same way as coal, oil and nuclear are. It's more of a method of storage (i.e. you need to apply a source of electricity to generate the hydrogen, the hydrogen can be stored, shipped, etc - and used to produce electricity later).

It's for the exact reason you mention - "free" hydrogen doesn't exist on Earth because it all floats away!

This example applies to green hydrogen produced by electrolysis. There are other methods, which may be more common now but are a byproduct of fossil fuel processes so not the direction most people mean when they talk about hydrogen in the future.

[Edit: The above is my basic understanding, may have inaccuracies - corrections welcome!]
 
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No new oil, gas or coal development if world is to reach net zero by 2050, says world energy body

Exploitation and development of new oil and gas fields must stop this year and no new coal-fired power stations can be built if the world is to stay within safe limits of global heating and meet the goal of net zero emissions by 2050, the world’s leading energy organisation has said. In its strongest warning yet on the need to drastically scale back fossil fuels, the International Energy Agency (IEA) also called for no new fossil-fuel cars to be sold beyond 2035, and for global investment in energy to more than double from $2tn (£1.42tn) a year to $5tn (£3.54tn) The result would not be an economic burden, as some have claimed, but a net benefit to the economy.