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Premium Connectivity Package and Order Date
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Just to balance this thread a little. I have no issue with paying for the 3g data connection on the car as long as its standard market rates, which thankfully it seems to be well below.
Glamisduner
Active Member
Well the way I see it, if I'm going to have to use my my phone, the system may as well just have Android auto..., The rest of the Tesla software for maps and audio is just bloat at this point, just like every other car out there. Hopefully there is a way to remove the garbage apps from the menu (maps and music) for those of us who do not want to pay extra. I guess it's time to look for a nice phone or tablet mount to sit next to the large touch screen, and a way to route the charging cables up to it.
BTW for those that don't know, most phones will not allow you to enable the hotspot if your in a dead zone (they do a carrier check first), so you will have to play with your phone while driving to enable the hotspot if you start in a dead zone (like I have to do every single day).
BTW for those that don't know, most phones will not allow you to enable the hotspot if your in a dead zone (they do a carrier check first), so you will have to play with your phone while driving to enable the hotspot if you start in a dead zone (like I have to do every single day).
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Based on what they're offering with"premium" internet service, it's pretty useless. All of the car functionality is there. The crappy slacker radio and map colors are meh at best. I think it might become more relevant eventually but right now it's a waste of money. Now if they added Pandora, browser, Google/Amazon/Apple music, now we're taking. I'm sure you have your applications you'd rather have than what's in there now, which is lackluster.
I probably wouldn’t either - it’s not unreasonably priced - except that my expectations were already set to not have to pay extra at least for a few years. It isn’t a deal breaker, but it’s about paying more than previously expected, not about exactly how much more. Besides, ongoing little fees are a pet peeve of mine. I still think Tesla will make it right for early reservation holders though.
JeffK
Well-Known Member
- I believe they should grandfather in all current reservation holders with current features.
- Give the 1yr trial after July 1st to new reservation holders (reserve after July 1st) or new S/X buyers
- I also believe they should add new streaming features not included in the current features. They should then charge everyone for the new premium internet connectivity package if they want those new features. This is then only way I can think of that'd be fair across the board.
It ‘sounds’ like Premium is the old normal since we current owners get it (it’s not an upgrade for us, right?).
Wow, overreaction much?
Let’s point out - we aren’t talking a ten year amortization. The expectation was that it would be chargeable after four years.
So $400 more. BFD on a $55K car.
Let’s point out - we aren’t talking a ten year amortization. The expectation was that it would be chargeable after four years.
So $400 more. BFD on a $55K car.
JeffK
Well-Known Member
It is unless they add new features. I mean I don't consider getting traffic on my navigation map a premium feature worth $100 a year.
JeffK
Well-Known Member
Chargeable to all owners after Jan 1 2018, which is not the case.
Specifically with regards to Model 3 reservation holders, Tesla is separating the ones who had the privilege of placing their orders before July 1st from ones who did not or wanted the more expensive versions.
Actually $300. The current owners manual says streaming is free for 4 years. Now it’s the first year free. So three extra years of payment. All this hyperventilating from people who haven’t been able to order yet (and those who don’t plan to order) is really over the top.
JeffK
Well-Known Member
suwaneedad
Member
Although Tesla will certainly fumble the policy transition (when have they not?...'free supercharging'), when taking a step back this is a first move by Tesla to put in place a Silicon Valley revenue model...SaaS. And frankly I'm happy to see it both as an owner (had always wondered what would happen after my 8 years of map updates had lapsed...8 years is the blink of an eye to me w/r/t car ownership durations) and as a shareholder. Now that said, making too much out of a Fred article, that's based on an internal email, the contents of which were not published verbatim, is a fool's errand. I suspect Elon will eventually clarify that reservations placed after X date will only enjoy the premium level services for Y years. X will be sometime after July 1 (again, will need to correct for/mitigate the policy transition fumble), and Y will be four years I believe (to match the existing warranty period) at least for existing owners or reservation holders. Just my guesses, of course. Elon doesn't want to screw people; as we've all seen, sometimes his underlings mess up on the first go and he has to come behind and mop up. Poor Elon.
I didn’t miss it. I’m referring to future owners were going to have 4 years if the previous policy was continued, now will have one year. That’s a difference of 3 years.
JeffK
Well-Known Member
No, the policy was:
"As an added benefit to our existing Model S customers, the free four year period starts on January 1, 2014. "
Instead if a car lasts 20 years that's a difference of $2000 assuming no price increases ($1900 since the first year is free). So if two people reserved a Model 3 on March 31st 2016, one will pay $1900 more over the life of the car vs the other person.
Chickenlittle
Banned
Not true all cars will have lifetime basic internet. The new package will be for browsing the internet. We all have smart phones, why would you use car instead of your smart phone to use internet?
JeffK
Well-Known Member
But they are taking away displaying traffic on the maps and internet radio too. I could care less about satellite view.
Internet streaming radio is listed as a standard feature Press Kit | Tesla which we all reserved.
Totally understand about the browser thing.
MissyMcBee
Member
Is there any car company that provides navigation and internet streaming for free? Hmm...
Maybe when Tesla does start charging they can put those revenues to use and improve what they currently provide (my optimistic hope).
All owners have previously been blessed with it and Tesla was clear with them that it would only be available for a specific period of time. And like most companies...Tesla wants to survive and be Sustainable...
What do most car companies charge for navigation packages these days? $2k average? if Tesla is charging $100 per year (estimate) and you keep your car for 10 years... you do the math.
I currently pay over $265 for two cars each year just for satellite radio and this does not include internet...
Maybe when Tesla does start charging they can put those revenues to use and improve what they currently provide (my optimistic hope).
All owners have previously been blessed with it and Tesla was clear with them that it would only be available for a specific period of time. And like most companies...Tesla wants to survive and be Sustainable...
What do most car companies charge for navigation packages these days? $2k average? if Tesla is charging $100 per year (estimate) and you keep your car for 10 years... you do the math.
I currently pay over $265 for two cars each year just for satellite radio and this does not include internet...
SoCalDude
Life is good!
If the feature is based on order date, then be careful making modifications after July 1st. I changed color from silver to blue and my order date changed to the new date on the order agreement.