No nag? I don't care how straight you are going or how slow you are going, if you giving some sort of feedback to the car that you are actively monitoring the car, you WILL get a reminder.It's entirely possible on a straight freeway leg.
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No nag? I don't care how straight you are going or how slow you are going, if you giving some sort of feedback to the car that you are actively monitoring the car, you WILL get a reminder.It's entirely possible on a straight freeway leg.
I'm not going to watch 10 minutes of you driving, but I suspect that since you (correctly) have you hands on the wheel, you might be providing enough force feedback to tell the car you are there.My car originally had a 20 or 30-second nag interval. I don't know exactly when this changed to ten minutes since I habitually have my hands on the wheel (like you should), but I noticed it months ago on a long drive.
My car originally had a 20 or 30-second nag interval. I don't know exactly when this changed to ten minutes since I habitually have my hands on the wheel (like you should), but I noticed it months ago on a long drive.
In the video, my hands never touch the wheel - that is the point. The nag happens after ten minutes of this.I'm not going to watch 10 minutes of you driving, but I suspect that since you (correctly) have you hands on the wheel, you might be providing enough force feedback to tell the car you are there.
If you can drive for 10 minutes without your hand on the wheel and get just the one nag, something is wrong with your car.
Drop it in my PayPal account and we have a deal. I did just install the latest software update this morning, but I expect no change in the nag interval. So you’re tellIng me you still have to reset the timer every 30 seconds or so?I'll give you $10 zillion dollars for it right now! Don't update the software or perform any resets, it may fix itself.
Drop it in my PayPal account and we have a deal. I did just install the latest software update this morning, but I expect no change in the nag interval. So you’re tellIng me you still have to reset the timer every 30 seconds or so?
I find that difficult to believe. We should do a poll.everyone but you has to do that, at least as far as we can tell.
My ten-minute nag has been in place for at least 8 update cycles.
I find that difficult to believe. We should do a poll.
I can’t think of any plausible hardware or software malfunction that would be unique to my car that would consistently alter my nag interval from ~30 seconds to 10 minutes. A complete nag failure in either direction is more likely, or a varying-interval failure. But not simply a 20-fold interval increase failure.
We all get the same software updates, don’t we? My ten-minute nag has been in place for at least 8 update cycles. Ten minutes also seems designed, whereas 6.8 minutes (or some such random time) would suggest something else. All other car functionality seems unaffected. I get the same obstacle and lane departure warnings, the occasional phantom braking, functional TACC, lane change prompts, proper left & right scroll wheel actions, intersection pass through with permission - all of it. Yet there is this isolated “failure”?
Both this being an an isolated, happy failure, and this being the only car exhibiting this behavior seem unlikely to me. So, ???
I appreciate your input and concern. Honestly, I do. Let me ask everyone this question.
If you noticed that your car was now consistently getting better than 180 Wh/mi efficiency and over 400 miles range on a full charge with normal driving, would you immediately take it into Tesla to see what was wrong?
I appreciate your input and concern. Honestly, I do. Let me ask everyone this question.
If you noticed that your car was now consistently getting better than 180 Wh/mi efficiency and over 400 miles range on a full charge with normal driving, would you immediately take it into Tesla to see what was wrong?
By that logic you shouldn’t be using autopilot at all, because we all know and experience phantom braking. That is clearly a malfunction in the self-driving and who knows what other dangers lurk within?If every other Tesla on the road was getting numbers nothing like mine? Of course I would. There's something not working correctly, and it could potentially cause a serious issue at any time.
If you're comfortable driving a malfunctioning car because you're magically confident the malfunction is ONLY positive though, that's your call.
But it IS the same as the phantom braking malfunction I mentioned in the post above. Yet we still use autopilot.That is no where near the same thing as "the system that is designed to ensure people are paying attention to actually driving when they get in the car, rather than trusting a sytem that is not self driving, isnt working"
The thing about driving is you have the ability to impact not only yourself with your actions or non actions, but others as well. Lots of people dont care about anything other than their own convenience or comfort, and if you were driving by yourself in the middle of a corn field, that would be fine, but you arent.
No it's not the same.But it IS the same as the phantom braking malfunction I mentioned in the post above. Yet we still use autopilot.
So you’re saying lack of a nag is a safety concern but phantom braking isn’t? Sorry, just because a malfunction is widespread doesn’t make it safer. If you have phantom braking, there is something wrong with your car. It isn’t supposed to do that.No it's not the same.
With the phantom braking (which really decreased with the 2020.44.X updates), it is a known issue, repeatable by many. The only consequence is a rapid deacceleration.
Your car (and seemingly your car ONLY) has a malfunction with a SAFETY system in the vehicle. If it were my car, I wouldn't be enjoying the lack of nag; I would have long ago made a service appointment to get the car looked at. This is NOT a good thing - THERE IS SOMETHING WRONG WITH YOUR CAR.
You've had many people tell you the exact same thing, but for some reason you chose to continue to be oblivious.
So you’re saying lack of a nag is a safety concern but phantom braking isn’t? Sorry, just because a malfunction is widespread doesn’t make it safer. If you have phantom braking, there is something wrong with your car. It isn’t supposed to do that.
I agree there is something ‘wrong’ with my car. I don’t agree that it is a cause for alarm - certainly less so than phantom braking, which is a known safety issue.
Just because a malfunction isn't widespread doesn't make it safer either. I hear what you are saying, and I think most of us would prefer a 10 min nag vs a 30 second nag, so you have us beat there. But the point is, something is not working correctly and that could mean other things aren't working correctly as well. You can take the risk to keep it the way you have it (honestly, many would probably keep it if they didn't know any better) but it's at the risk of those riding in your car, weather that be family, friends or co-workers. It's about you vs all the others that could be impacted.just because a malfunction is widespread doesn’t make it safer.