Which statement is false and how is the statement false.
I was under the impression that FSD Beta does not use the radar, and is Tesla Vision only. It doesn't matter if FSD beta is turned on or not. It will still have the same limitations as a Tesla Vision only vehicle.
Tesla has switched all vehicles in the Full Self-Driving Beta pool to Pure Vision, completely axing radar from any vehicles within the Beta fleet. Even if a member of the FSD Beta program has radar installed in their vehicle, Tesla’s Full Self-Driving beta program will not utilize it, adopting a...
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You're not reading carefully.
Once again:
The first statement said "
all radar-equipped Tesla cars will eventually join the radarless group to become Pure Vision/Radarless only". That's not true.
I pointed out that multiple knowledgeable experts have stated, repeatedly, that the radar units in radar-equipped Tesla vehicles are still used for *at least* three functions, and I specifically listed what those three functions are (Forward Collision Warning, Automatic Emergency Braking, cruise control distances, etc.).
Based on what these firmware decompiling experts have said, my statement definitely applies to "non-FSD" radar-equipped vehicles.
Moreover, there is some data to indicate even radar-equipped models that *with* FSD may still be using it for the same three functions when "FSD" is not active.
The second statement asserts that radar will definitely be turned off in *all* vehicles in the future, with the presence of FSD subscriptions playing some role in the priority of which vehicles get it turned off. There is significant evidence that is not true at all, among them being the fact that multiple Tesla Service Center managers have said they have specific instructions to continue to service and replace radar units in all radar-equipped vehicles in perpetuity. If they were turning off radar and never using it in vehicles with the units, they would likely stop replacing them and put in a connector plug or cheap "dummy" unit that reports itself as being fine, if only to avoid problem reports to the computer (and only until a firmware upgrade that stops even asking the radar if its alive could be pushed out.).
Also, at least one firmware expert on these forums has said that they *may* even be using radar for the three functions I list above *when* FSD is active, without highlighting it. This very last point is a little more uncertain, but it makes sense for a lot of other secondary reasons, including legal liability in the event of a forward collision, etc.
A larger point here that isn't being discussed is that tons of folks are pretty sure Tesla removed radar from new vehicles because of supply chain shortages and also to lower costs in the face of significantly increased competition. There's a lot of counter evidence that "pure vision" isn't better at all, but that's well-covered by many other threads on this site. ;^)
