Yggdrasill
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It didn't at all occur to me that there was anything wrong with the presentation Musk did. He got across all the relevant information.
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Absolutely!I would prefer to hear from an Elon as a genuine engineer with imperfect speech rather than from a perfectly smooth talking salesperson.
Just this minor nuance of this minor particle and gasses in the air ...bio hazard mode...really? What problem did that one solve? Replacing the filters costs....$$$
It didn't at all occur to me that there was anything wrong with the presentation Musk did. He got across all the relevant information.
Same here. Really like the honest way he does this. Nothing flashy or anything just pure unedited enthusiasmAbsolutely!
Looked up the CEOs of Germany's auto industry. Pretty much all of them are engineers or have some related STEM degree. Didn't find anyone with a MBA.I would prefer to hear from an Elon as a genuine engineer with imperfect speech rather than from a perfectly smooth talking salesperson.
Just how much market share does EV have at the moment? How is the coverage of the charging network? How long does it take to charge?
I like Elon in his interviews, and indeed he comes across as genuine. That being said, during the X reveal he did not seem to care much about his audience. It is disrespectful to 1) be 50 minutes late without an explanation, or any hint of "I am sorry, my cat got stuck in a tree" when finally showing up, and 2) it would not harm him to rehearse his speech once or twice, so he does not appear to be stumbling so often. He is a clever man, could easily do a better job at it.
Looked up the CEOs of Germany's auto industry. Pretty much all of them are engineers or have some related STEM degree. Didn't find anyone with a MBA.
IMO, Elon seriously needs to either 1) greatly improve his presentations; or 2) delegate to someone else. I think Tesla is great, but seriously, it was an awkward presentation overall.
Ha! Trolls (with an "s"). Have you noticed there is more than one? I suspect one or more are employed by other auto makers and are here to plant FUD.This thread did improve for Elon, but sure turned worse with the troll. May I suggest a Model X to pull a boat and go trolling at sea?
My number one comment about the Tesla Motors Model X Launch Event was the ability to enjoy talking to people for 6 hours.
Which tour were you on? I was in the 9:00 AM tour. Hope I didn't miss an opportunity to chat with the illustrious Mark Z! I share your enthusiasm for the event and the X and am a bit envious of your position in line.OT: Best of all was taking a factory tour the next day. Seeing a "Training X" near the final assembly line with multiple workers installing the components gave a hint of how they are progressing towards getting our cars finished after the training is complete.
Agree 100%. But as others have said, it would be OK for Musk to share the limelight a bit. This is not a one-man operation any more and it would have been nice to see JB and Franz up there doing some of the presentation.It didn't at all occur to me that there was anything wrong with the presentation Musk did. He got across all the relevant information.
I'm sure there are, but I have no interest in them. Because they aren't electric. Like many others who buy a Tesla, I'm punching above my weight class to bring home a 100% electric Tesla. Our current car is a 10-year old Highlander Hybrid. I expect the Model X to take us through the next 10 years (if not much more).Just wanted to point out that there are lots of nice cars in that price range.
The Supercharger network, which Tesla surprised people with in 2012 as a "free bonus," (after they had thousands of Model S order/deposits*), now has close to 500 locations worldwide. If you're travelling far, you can get up and down both coasts and across the country for free, getting 50% range restored in 20 minutes (soon to be even faster with the liquid-cooled cables) which gets you to the next Supercharger. For me personally, there are plenty of superchargers in place now to get me to and from our cabin in the Adirondacks and my parents' house in Georgia, from NYC. It's pretty remarkable that they've gone from 0 locations to almost 500 in three years. Looking at the supercharger map, there are plenty more planned worldwide for the remainder of the year and on into the future.How is the coverage of the charging network? How long does it take to charge?
What are the units? 50K what? Finished battery packs? If so, what size/capacity?Just read the other day, LG is starting to build a new battery factory in EU (50k capacity). They are building one in China now (100k). They have existing 200k in Korea and 50k in US.
If Nissan starts building batteries using LG chemistry, that is another 400k or so world wide.
There were photos taken and shown on reddit/twitter of Elon rehearsing backstage before the presentation started. At some point, it's just not his main focus and public speaking can be a bit rough for a lot of engineers, clearly Elon included. Source: Am engineer.
The "head scratcher" for me is why they didn't design a highly flexible area behind the front seats: The "U" in SUV. This vehicle seems designed to 1) Comfortably carry a family of seven. and 2) Sell in China (smog and owner often in second row seats).
I'll give you the benefit of the doubt that you got the timeline mixed up rather than revisionist history.The Supercharger network, which Tesla surprised people with in 2012 as a "free bonus," (after they'd already sold thousands of Model S cars)
I'll give you the benefit of the doubt that you got the timeline mixed up rather than revisionist history.
The super charger was not a surprise free bonus. It was announced as built into the price for 85s, but not 60s. It'd also wasn't announced after they'd shipped thousands of cars, it was before. Also, it'd be quite generous to say they'd shipped "thousands" of cars at that point even in 2012 as a whole.
I'm car #2310 and got my car on December 30th 2012. That's barely squeaking into the "thousands" and there was a HUGE push to deliver cars that December, so the number of cars delivered by, say, November 30th was well below that.
Small quibble with the small quibble. Deposits were 100% refundable. People had reserved the option to buy, not committed to buy.Small quibble - there were likely thousands of reservations in the pipeline at the point of the Supercharger announcement - meaning, people who had made the decision to buy & given a deposit, without knowing that this bonus was in the works. Admittedly, not the same as 'delivered cars', but still speaks to how many people had committed without that perk.
I was at the supercharger announcement. We knew that there would be quick DC charging for long trips, but it was not explained until then. I went hoping to see some model Ss, but there were only a handful there. I think only a couple hundred had been delivered by that time. We got ours December 22 2012 so we had to finalize our order about the time of the supercharger event. At the time there were only 6 superchargers all in California.