If it's only $2K for EAP owners I'm all over it. Just being able to stop at lights is worth it to me. That means I can leave Autopilot on for a good distance AFTER I leave the freeway. Much more valuable for getting through cities on main roads now.
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Reduced price Autopilot & FSD for existing owners announced March 1st
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The confusing thing is that I’ve paid 3k few hours ago and now Elon is saying 2k...
Wait, so people that didn’t support you in buying EAP early and didn’t participate in being guinea pigs to the beta software get to enjoy the whole EAP + FSD package for 5k at the expense of people that were early adopters and spent time beta testing and providing feedback that now have to pay another 2 or 3k (delending oh who is to be believed) to get it? That makes no sense. I can accept the price drops in the cars price but this is starting to taste very sour. Early adopters lost car value and have to pay more for the same features. FSD should just be free for early EAP adopters as a thank you for supporting the program early.
insaneoctane
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Tesla had more than 24 hours to run these numbers and it really is a cluster! If the announcement was non EAP cars offered AP for $3K and FSD for $4K, that adds up to $7K. Current EAP owners offered FSD for $1K (must pay for new HW 3.0), that adds up to $6K. Doesn't screw the early adopters and still covers costs. ...
ucmndd
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That’s because they’re “literally” (Elon’s favorite word) just making this sugar up as they go.
Not very confidence inspiring.
Seriously!!!! That’s soooo messed up. It’s insult to injury and salt to the wound! What the hell?! So I gave tesla $5000 early for EAP and I get screwed once again!?
ucmndd
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Yes. Presumably you’ve received some value from EAP in the months/years since you bought it.
That’s not my point. It’s just fudged math. This whole thing is a none issue if you charge $8K for it. That’s the cost right now if you order a new Model 3. Instead, they think they are doing favors to current owners by only charging them $5K while forgetting that it’s simultaneously screwing existing current owners with EAP or FSD.
The solution here was very straight forward from the start. Just charge legacy owners with neither feature $8K and all is squared away.
smjbh5
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StealthP3D
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We are all enrolled in the School of Capitalism. But it seems like there are a lot of freshmen this year who don't understand the curriculum.
Is this the result of childhood competitions where everyone wins an award every time? I knew that would come back to bite us.
GenSao
Member
Elon is making some adjustments, I think the following is a fair compromise based on a $1K discount for a net $7K cost.
- For those that got EAP + FSD ($8K): a $1K refund or credit on a future purchase + invitation to Early Access Program (EAP)
- For those that got EAP only ($5K): A $2,000 cost to get FSD
- For those that did not have either at the onset, Option to get AP for $2K and add FSD for $5K
MagnusMako
Member
We bought more car before by paying more than people do now. This helps create parity for people who took big losses after all these price drops.
Welcome to the Tesla crud show of pricing. What fools run their sales organization?
ucmndd
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We are all enrolled in the School of Capitalism. But it seems like there are a lot of freshmen this year who don't understand the curriculum.
Is this the result of childhood competitions where everyone wins an award every time? I knew that would come back to bite us.
I am astonished by the level of pearl clutching going on here over the last day and a half. It’s ridiculous. EVERYONE thinks they’re owed something for free or next to nothing.
xilex
Model P3D
This is becoming like a Kickstarter. Pay ahead of time for really great features, delay, delay, delay. Eventually arrives, or pay more for something better.
Yes, technically, but poster suggested it is just a software update, plus the entire fleet of cars has HW2.5, so it will require retrofit.
Yes, technically, but poster suggested it is just a software update, plus the entire fleet of cars has HW2.5, so it will require retrofit.
Tweet from ElonThis is becoming like a Kickstarter. Pay ahead of time for really great features, delay, delay, delay. Eventually arrives, or pay more for something better.
Yes, technically, but poster suggested it is just a software update, plus the entire fleet of cars has HW2.5, so it will require retrofit.
"It’s not exactly symmetric, but it will come with HW3 upgrade long-term"
So looks like HW3 confirmed as part of the upgrade
If that means someone that bought it today for 3k, looking forward to my refund and early access
You mean $2k more for a FSD promise some time i the future, perhaps. Why would anyone even pay $500 for the silly added features that are not here now and a promise for something that may never happen. Does anyone not see that by the time this may even be possible it will be so far down the line that they will be offering it dirt cheap? I can't believe anyone paid for FSD at purchase let alone $3K now. Hey Cool Aide!
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