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Bummer it was probably fine with the software flash. We still don't know if there is any physical difference between awd and performance, but it's certain that a performance car could be gosh to an awd in order to sell it. They may have just forgotten to flash it to a performance model.

But I commend you for rejecting the car, this isn't something you should have to deal with and Tesla needs to learn.
 
Bummer it was probably fine with the software flash. We still don't know if there is any physical difference between awd and performance, but it's certain that a performance car could be gosh to an awd in order to sell it. They may have just forgotten to flash it to a performance model.

But I commend you for rejecting the car, this isn't something you should have to deal with and Tesla needs to learn.

What if it came flashed already with P instead of a AWD and had a different maroney sticker?

Materially, nothing actually changed.

To streamline production it makes sense to have every motor capable of 3.5 seconds.

Looking at Tesla’s production ramp it would just be playing grab ass games to try and sort motors while pushing maximum production and deliveries.

If a randomly sampled motor at its worst handles 3.5 seconds within 3 standard deviations if the mean it’s not worth extra testing.
 
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What if it came flashed already with P instead of a AWD and had a different maroney sticker?

Materially, nothing actually changed.

To streamline production it makes sense to have every motor capable of 3.5 seconds.

Looking at Tesla’s production ramp it would just be playing grab ass games to try and sort motors while pushing maximum production and deliveries.

If a randomly sampled motor at its worst handles 3.5 seconds within 3 standard deviations if the mean it’s not worth extra testing.
Its possible, but then Elon might be in for another lawsuit :)

I'm thinking they know which cars are performance capable but in the end of Q3 push they just flashed some to AWD for quicker / easier delivery. Or, perhaps they just screwed up on some vins (they are giving people mismatched bumpers etc after all). But it's totally possible that all AWD cars are actually performance cars that need a $9k update (or in my case it will a $11k simple software flash I paid for).

But also, I would think they would have made an extra 11k by selling an AWD flashed to a P for me and I still don't have a 3 so there might be more too it than that.

Maybe I should ask and see if they can get me into an AWD sooner? I have already spent like $500 in diesel this month and want my car soon. I wish I hadn't sold both my cars until I actually had the 3 in hand.
 
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Its possible, but then Elon might be in for another lawsuit :)

I'm thinking they know which cars are performance capable but in the end of Q3 push they just flashed some to AWD for quicker / easier delivery. Or, perhaps they just screwed up on some vins (they are giving people mismatched bumpers etc after all). But it's totally possible that all AWD cars are actually performance cars that need a $9k update (or in my case it will a $11k simple software flash I paid for).

But also, I would think they would have made an extra 11k by selling an AWD flashed to a P for me and I still don't have a 3 so there might be more too it than that.

Maybe I should ask and see if they can get me into an AWD sooner? I have already spent like $500 in diesel this month and want my car soon. I wish I hadn't sold both my cars until I actually had the 3 in hand.

If Elon said they do X process.. but change to Y process can’t really be fraud.

Y process is all motors meet tolerance for P so they can be down clocked to AWD.

Also, no tort if no damages. Car is still 3.5 speed and you still have the warranty.

I know I troll a lot but I am serious when you need to get your seat in a car ASAP. Losing a sale from you makes no difference to Tesla because they are already maxed out with Q4 back log.

Thousands of people will be hounding the centers, ds, finance etc.. where’s my car where’s my car where’s my car.

Tesla owes me a grand + tax for overcharging me on FSD but I don’t see me getting my money back until next year.

Try an inventory or a demo car.

Good luck - your situation is total bs. :(
 
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If Elon said they do X process.. but change to Y process can’t really be fraud.

Y process is all motors meet tolerance for P so they can be down clocked to AWD.

Also, no tort if no damages. Car is still 3.5 speed and you still have the warranty.

I know I troll a lot but I am serious when you need to get your seat in a car ASAP. Losing a sale from you makes no difference to Tesla because they are already maxed out with Q4 back log.

Try an inventory or a demo car.

Good luck - your situation is total bs. :(
Demo car was great, but it's nothing but a tease. I bet they would be trying to get me a car faster if I hadn't given them $3500 deposit, then a check for 40k last month.
 
I find it shocking to pay $9000 for just a software upgrade. Rip-off!

Performance should include better shocks, suspension and brakes. Most manufacturers have a performance version with physical improvements. If this is really what performance is, then isn't a souped-up Honda Civic a "performance" vehicle. Looks at the Z06 compared to the base Corvette to understand what I'm saying.

C'mon guys and gals. Faster acceleration means one should have faster stopping and faster cornering. This is a $9000 joke.
 
I find it shocking to pay $9000 for just a software upgrade. Rip-off!

Performance should include better shocks, suspension and brakes. Most manufacturers have a performance version with physical improvements. If this is really what performance is, then isn't a souped-up Honda Civic a "performance" vehicle. Looks at the Z06 compared to the base Corvette to understand what I'm saying.

C'mon guys and gals. Faster acceleration means one should have faster stopping and faster cornering. This is a $9000 joke.

The market says you are wrong.... Tesla appears to be selling plenty of P- cars where the only difference between it and AWD is faster acceleration.

There's a reason the only two vehicles available for demo are RWD and Performance. They want you to be breathless from Performance acceleration and get that since the profit margins on it are huge.

Maybe once demand slows up and they have surplus production capacity they can think of more ways to differentiate the higher spec versions like what other manufacturers do.
 
I find it shocking to pay $9000 for just a software upgrade. Rip-off!

Performance should include better shocks, suspension and brakes. Most manufacturers have a performance version with physical improvements. If this is really what performance is, then isn't a souped-up Honda Civic a "performance" vehicle. Looks at the Z06 compared to the base Corvette to understand what I'm saying.

C'mon guys and gals. Faster acceleration means one should have faster stopping and faster cornering. This is a $9000 joke.
I'm quite happy with my P3D- and have no regrets paying the extra money, even if it is only software. In fact, if Tesla would drop 0-60 to 2.5s, I'd gladly give them another $9k.
 
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I find it shocking to pay $9000 for just a software upgrade. Rip-off!

Performance should include better shocks, suspension and brakes. Most manufacturers have a performance version with physical improvements. If this is really what performance is, then isn't a souped-up Honda Civic a "performance" vehicle. Looks at the Z06 compared to the base Corvette to understand what I'm saying.

C'mon guys and gals. Faster acceleration means one should have faster stopping and faster cornering. This is a $9000 joke.

LOL... Right... So the huge amounts of money people pay to modify their ICE control modules (you know, software) to squeeze a few tenths of a second out of the car is just a rip-off?

Jeff
 
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You rejected the car that was yours.
Everything is simply software. This has been discussed at length in this forum.
I may be wrong on this comment, yet it appears that the OP was not on this forum before taking delivery of the car, and thus didn't have an opportunity to see postings discussed at length. I probably would have done the same thing with limited information.

A good reason to check out various forums before taking delivery of a car. One can learn a lot here.
 
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I find it shocking to pay $9000 for just a software upgrade. Rip-off!

Performance should include better shocks, suspension and brakes. Most manufacturers have a performance version with physical improvements. If this is really what performance is, then isn't a souped-up Honda Civic a "performance" vehicle. Looks at the Z06 compared to the base Corvette to understand what I'm saying.

C'mon guys and gals. Faster acceleration means one should have faster stopping and faster cornering. This is a $9000 joke.

$9,000 is a lot of money for that feature alone, but what we don't know is what else that Tesla might be factoring into the price , like maybe they think the car is going to be subjected to more warranty issues due to those folks that like to go from stand still to a million mph in 1 sec. :D

I would not go so far as to think it is a rip-off. People know what they are getting for what they are paying and accepting it. I didn't get that feature. For me I wasn't willing to pay $9,000 for it, yet lots of people are willing to pay the price. I'd think they only got ripped off if they were mislead about what they were getting for the price.
 
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We want to preface this by saying we are really behind this company and the ethos it is cultivating however our experience thus far has been nothing but frustrating and disappointing. I am hopeful these ordering and delivery woes will be ironed out by the end of next year.

We ordered a midnight grey Dual Motor AWD Performance, without the $5,000 upgrade package and had an appointment to take delivery this weekend (10/13) at the Rocklin, CA center. First of all the buildup to the delivery process was very frustrating as I had no less than 6 or 7 delivery coordinators either emailing or texting me in the weeks leading up to it to coordinate a date - unfortunately none of them seemed to be communicating with each other and knew nothing of my conversations the other coordinators. This could have been ignored since we had a set appointment except for the fact that despite my attempts at calling, texting and emailing every single coordinator that reached out to me, no one would return my messages and we didn't have a finalized purchase agreement with our financing information (two days prior to our delivery appointment). I called the Tesla main line and the operator said I'll leave a message with the delivery coordinator working on your account and then named someone who was definitely not one of the 6 or 7 people I had already spoken with. Long story short, in desperation, I contacted our original owner advisor in the showroom who took us on a test drive and he helped get the ball rolling at the 11th hour.

We showed up to the Rocklin center at our scheduled appointment time, completed our paperwork and were escorted our to our car. We matched the Vin to our purchase agreement and proceeded to go over our delivery checklist. We found a few minor clearcoat flaws here and there, oily finger print smudges on the light colored fabric above the drivers side, some left over sticky residue from stickers, trunk light burned out and one major flaw, which was that the roof and rear glass was misaligned. As we were going over the car we wondered how we would actually know that the car was the performance model since the cars aren't badged. Our phone app only said Dual Motor All Wheel Drive as did the display on the dash screen. We asked the delivery coordinator and he wasn't quite sure but said he'd look into it. It was then we noticed that the Monroney Sticker didn't match our order. It noted a Dual Motor All Wheel Drive (non-performance) with the Auto-Pilot option, something we didn't purchase. The pricing on the sticker also didn't match our order, but the VIN was the one assigned to us. We thought surely, this was a mix up and they brought us to the wrong car.

The delivery coordinator returned and confirmed we were right, this car wasn't the one we ordered and explained there had been some glitches with the VIN matching service. He was scrambling to see if there was an unmatched car on the lot that they could assign to us so we could leave with a car that day. He recommended we go eat some lunch and come back in a little while while they looked into it. When we returned from lunch the delivery coordinator said he had great news for us. The car we were given was in fact our car, the performance model, but that it's firmware hadn't been updated. He stated that they updated a few things in the system and we were ready to go. We were absolutely not convinced of this and it seemed pretty shady that the car was originally listed as a non-performance with other add on options and now was all of the sudden the performance model we ordered. My husband noted that the performance vehicles front motor and some hardware components were different than the non-performance vehicles and that performance rear motors have a higher selection standard per Elon's tweets. We explained that we didn't feel comfortable taking this car, as there's no real way to look at the engines and in fact no way at all to confirm that we were getting the $10,000 performance upgrade. The delivery coordinator said, you'll know when you drive it. At this point we felt like they were just trying to get this car off the lot. Spending this much money on a car, we want to feel 100% about it and this experience was botched from the get go. We rejected the delivery and asked to be assigned another VIN. They said we'd have to be put back in the queue but we requested they find us another car asap and try to have it delivered to our home since we wasted 8 hours of a Saturday with this. We'll see how this is resolved.

Anyone else with a similar experience?
My Monroney sticker didn’t match either. It showed AWD without Performance. I confirmed I have P3D- by the red underline under Dual Motor and the fact that it hauls a$$.

Couldn’t be happier with my purchase.
 
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I find it shocking to pay $9000 for just a software upgrade. Rip-off!

Performance should include better shocks, suspension and brakes. Most manufacturers have a performance version with physical improvements. If this is really what performance is, then isn't a souped-up Honda Civic a "performance" vehicle. Looks at the Z06 compared to the base Corvette to understand what I'm saying.

C'mon guys and gals. Faster acceleration means one should have faster stopping and faster cornering. This is a $9000 joke.

You had the wrong browser tab open. You meant to post here I believe:

CorvetteForum - Chevrolet Corvette News and Rumors

Tesla charges what the market will bear. The market is bearing a lot of load at $9,000 for the "rip off software upgrade".

Don't like it, don't buy it. Even if you wanted to buy it, you would have trouble doing so - given current demand levels.
 
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Under Driving / Acceleration,
AWD has: Chill/Standard
P has: Chill/Standard/Sport
I believe this is the way to check the car has the right software.

No, my Performance+ has chill and standard for acceleration. 'Sport' is only available for Steering.

BTW, there was a poster on Reddit who said that the car could not simply be updated via software to Performance from AWD (when he got the wrong designation) because it didn't have the correct software.

Just picked up Model 3 Performance, but Maroney sticker shows that it is a regular AWD • r/teslamotors

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No, my Performance+ has chill and standard for acceleration. 'Sport' is only available for Steering.

BTW, there was a poster on Reddit who said that the car could not simply be updated via software to Performance from AWD (when he got the wrong designation) because it didn't have the correct software.

Just picked up Model 3 Performance, but Maroney sticker shows that it is a regular AWD • r/teslamotors

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1) Then you might have a problem!!! You might have the first reported AWD+. ALL P3 (+ and regular) have only Chill and Sport (NO Standard) for power setting.
2) Well, if you heard it from someone on the internet (Reddit) with no link, then it clearly must be true. I guess the hundreds of posts to the contrary from knowledgeable people must be wrong!

Many cars have been reported updated from AWD to Performance via software. So it clearly can be done and is being done. The only open question is whether ALL AWD cars can be upgraded, or whether some (with less than P spec Drive Units) cannot. I suspect we may never know the answer to that!