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I wish there was a pedestrian citation that could be used for such situations. A side camera on the vehicle with a video recording would be great for addressing the shallow end of the gene pool.I dunno, I've had someone walk right into the side of my ICE car in the past. If they're oblivious, then they're oblivious.
Where does it stop? How about people that recognize ICE vehicles by the smell (hard of hearing folk, perhaps)? Do we need to have a pollutant emitter added for those people as well?seems like I am outnumbered
but I do feel that the sound of an ICE will alert more people than would the Model S.. just my thoughts...
All it takes is one person (probably me) to have an MP3 that's says "get the f out of the way you retard" at high volume for the government to standardize on something nobody likes.I really like the idea of being able to play MP3s to an external speaker. I can imagine the usefulness of playing a locomotive sound, perhaps a donkey braying, a cat fight, a cattle stampede, a baby giggling, or jet take-off.
And 50% of the population seems to live with ear buds permanently implanted now, to the point that they make an aggravated production out of removing one (never two) if obliged to listen to something besides their "tunes" at cortex-damaging db levels (15 min. at 95 db for lab rats)."for sure"? How can you possibly know that? I've seen that happen in parking lots and parking garages with ICes. I believe you and some others are way overestimating how much people notice . . . and how they notice. It's like distracted driving--distracted walking! ;-) Hearing things doesn't matter if they're not listening.
I really like the idea of being able to play MP3s to an external speaker. I can imagine the usefulness of playing a locomotive sound, perhaps a donkey braying, a cat fight, a cattle stampede, a baby giggling, or jet take-off.
Driving my wife's Volt I have found the standard pedestrian horn on the end of the turn stalk to be very useful and have used it several times. It is much more "polite sounding" than the standard horn and should be a standard feature on all EVs IMO. Although I have had distracted pedestrians fail to notice my ICE vehicle on occasion it happens much more frequently in an EV. A custom MP3 external sound option would be awesome.
I would also really be in favor of a pedestrian alert sound tied to the high beams. I wonder if there's any way for the Model S to make such a sound with current hardware. The horn is software controlled (the security option can make it sound). Perhaps it could be made to blow for a really, really short amount of time -- way shorter than any human could do reliably, and short enough that it wouldn't scare the bejebus out of somebody.
Otherwise, there's the beeper for the power lift gate, but I think that's in the rear of the car, and may only be on the cars that have the power gate...
I would also really be in favor of a pedestrian alert sound tied to the high beams. I wonder if there's any way for the Model S to make such a sound with current hardware. The horn is software controlled (the security option can make it sound). Perhaps it could be made to blow for a really, really short amount of time -- way shorter than any human could do reliably, and short enough that it wouldn't scare the bejebus out of somebody.
Otherwise, there's the beeper for the power lift gate, but I think that's in the rear of the car, and may only be on the cars that have the power gate...
I have been asking for this feature (pull the high beam stalk that flashes your brights to also give a quieter local pedestrian tone) for over a year now. Eveyone at Tesla events I could find. talked to the guy in charge of such things and he said that everything necessary to do this is in the car, circuits, speaker, Switching. Totally do able. It has been on thier laps for a very long time. I even told Franz about the idea as an industry standard for all EVs he also had that "That's a good idea" reaction. All that said, we should just keep asking. It's clearly a good idea, everyone likes it. So with more pressure it should get implemented on later cars (hopefully as a firmware upgrade, not a model change)
This is important. The only pushback I've ever received was being told that that Elon hates noise! I'm of course hoping a pedestrian warning, muted sound will win out as a proactive way of showing EVs are trying to be safe and putting the responsibility and capability to warn others in the hand of the driver, stopping any forced legislation to add mandatory noise to "all electric vehicles". There is already such a Bill in the works.
Lastly, the "Elon hates noise" thing pretty much kills the dreams if those who want MP3 noises coming from thier Teslas. Sorry guys. Aftermarket.
Here's how I used to make pedestrians give way for my vehicle - in a former life - Clearwater Steve knows what I'm talking about :biggrin:
Blues Brothers - YouTube
I live in a very urban area with lots of unaware pedestrians! A future option that I would like to see is a paddle on the steering column much like a paddle shifter that when pulled would emit a whirrrr or some electronic sound that will alert without being loud like a horn. J.
This is what I'd thought too. A replacement nose cone option.I thought you were asking for an attachment to the front bumper that would reach out and paddle offending pedestrians. :tongue: