I'm in a similar situation as yourself, I am looking at purchasing one of the two cars more towards the December time frame. The refresh has a very nice look but I like to mod cars so there is a person on here who is close to perfecting his headlights and also now you have two companies who make the a front bumper refresh look-a-like for the older cars. The way I see it, you are pretty much on par with what the two cars offer, so now it comes down to price and then availability for the 85D. I'm hoping holding out puts me into that sweet spot with a 85D, if not, oh well, I'm still getting one!