Ride height difference between pre and post facelift performance?

[Krobbler]

I am curious if anyone out there with a pre and post facelift performance 3 can measure the fender to ground measurement front and rear. Visually the 21+ looks like it is slightly lower than the pre facelift. I just wanted to confirm or deny that there is or is not a difference.

 

[Adam3]

Late model 2019 (pedestrian speaker, etc)

 

[Krobbler]

Could someone with a stock 2021 Performance measure the fender to ground?

 

[scalbert03]

This is what I just got on my 2021 M3P

Front: 28.50"
Rear: 28.25"

 

[MaskedRacerX]

I'll do it too, for another set of measurements. '21 M3P, delivered in June (also ordered in June), 2134 miles as of today.

Stand by ...

OK, the front and rear are very close to the same: 28.125" (28 1/8"), less than a 1/16" difference.

 

[Krobbler]

Thanks guys. Clearly visually I was wrong. Maybe it is the wheel fitment and size difference that is messing with my eyes.

Its interesting the late 2019 is actually a 1/2" lower in the front than the 2021.

 

[Adam3]

Can another early M3P measure? I'm on ZeroG wheels which use the same sized tires but maybe it's still marginally different? Were ZeroG wheels 1/2" wider? Not sure that it would make any meaningful impact on ride height...

 

[scalbert03]

Can another early M3P measure? I'm on ZeroG wheels which use the same sized tires but maybe it's still marginally different? Were ZeroG wheels 1/2" wider? Not sure that it would make any meaningful impact on ride height...

What tires size?

 

[scalbert03]

Just FYI, mine is a September build. Just got it three weeks ago.

 

[Adam3]

235/35/20

 

[scalbert03]

That shouldn’t affect the ride height much. A different tire can have a slightly different tread height though.

 

[MaskedRacerX]

Looks like my edit window closed, but just to clarify, I'm running the stock 20" setup, Uberturbines with the Pirelli 235/35-20.

Side note: I wish the car was just 1/2" lower, combined with some slightly taller sidewall tires like a 245/35, it would be perfect for me.

 

[jjrandorin]

Can another early M3P measure? I'm on ZeroG wheels which use the same sized tires but maybe it's still marginally different? Were ZeroG wheels 1/2" wider? Not sure that it would make any meaningful impact on ride height...

I have a dec 2018 Model 3P, but I also am on ZeroGs so I dont think that would help.

 

[android04]

The springs in the suspension can settle over time and the older 2019 M3P might read a little lower than the newer ones, but I'm sure the height specs haven't changed. Also, people are probably measuring differently (the tape measure's hook should be pulled out and not pushed into the ground).

 

[earthwormjim]

Also, people are probably measuring differently (the tape measure's hook should be pulled out and not pushed into the ground).

That's not how you use a tape measure. The hook slides freely to account for whether the hook is inside or outside whatever you are measuring. It slides enough to subtract the thickness of the hook when it is hooked on the outside. In this case, since the hook is inside the measurement, it's outer part is touching the ground, the hook should be pushed inwards.

 

[Mrcarcrazy]

38k on the clock. June 2019 build. 100% stock. This is the front…obviously….

 

[jjrandorin]

That's not how you use a tape measure. The hook slides freely to account for whether the hook is inside or outside whatever you are measuring. It slides enough to subtract the thickness of the hook when it is hooked on the outside. In this case, since the hook is inside the measurement, it's outer part is touching the ground, the hook should be pushed inwards.

This is somewhat OT, but thanks for posting this explanation. I knew I could get the same measurements on a tape measure, but never really thought about "why" that is. after reading your explanation, I googled it cause I was curious on how that actually worked. Learn something new every day, appreciate you posting this remark.

In case anyone else is interested, here is the video I found when googling it, which explains what @earthwormjim is saying about tape measures, in video forum:

 

[android04]

That's not how you use a tape measure. The hook slides freely to account for whether the hook is inside or outside whatever you are measuring. It slides enough to subtract the thickness of the hook when it is hooked on the outside. In this case, since the hook is inside the measurement, it's outer part is touching the ground, the hook should be pushed inwards.

I stand corrected on how the tape measure hook works. I guess I never though about why the hook is loose.

 

[earthwormjim]

I stand corrected on how the tape measure hook works. I guess I never though about why the hook is loose.

Once you realize it, it's a real eye opener how clever even seemingly simple things are. Product design is really amazing if you get to see it from behind the scenes.

 

[scalbert03]

I re-checked yesterday, while in my garage, and now all four corners are at 28-1/8 inches. September build 2021 M3P.