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Yesterday I did my first drive with the 3.0 where I had to dip into the lower end of range mode. Everything was fine on the drive home and I got back with 35 miles ideal / 21 estimated. The VDS battery had gone red but there were no warning messages. I didn't get the "cannot calculate range" warning.

I plugged in but immediately got a warning that the pack voltage was low and the car was doing a recovery charge. It had gone to standard mode charging and the range was showing 0. It only started charging normally again above 40 miles estimated.

The only time I had a recovery charge before was on arriving in Edinburgh 7 years ago, when I was driving 14 miles in cannot calculate range mode after the counter passed 20 miles. That was not surprising, but if I am going to get recovery charges at 40 miles then to me that means the 3.0 range is 40 miles less than claimed. I think @Kerios had exactly the same experience.

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Weird. I have been down to zero three times since I bought my car in 2011 and never received such a message. The third time was after the new battery was installed. Everything was fine after I recharged so I don't think there was any damage done.
 
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Weird. I have been down to zero three times since I bought my car in 2011 and never received such a message. The third time was after the new battery was installed. Everything was fine after I recharged so I don't think there was any damage done.
Unfortunately the 3.0 battery behaves differently than the old battery. So it will act differently than your current battery.

Some quirks are the last 3% of charge takes a LONG time, like 2 hours long.
The battery charges to a lower state, in standard mode 79% versus 84%.
So the difference now between standard and range charge is 120 miles versus the old 50 miles.
 
@dpeilow, now that you've cycled the battery completely, it would be great to get an updated CAC over to @bolosky for his 3.0 longevity graph. I wonder if there has been a step change in value for yours (hopefully up)?

I have pulled the logs and intended to send them over after this drive anyway, but strangely the CAC has remained at 212.57 for weeks now.

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Here are the sections of the log file showing that I got down to 11% real SOC. Showing 35 miles left at that point is not clever IMHO.

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01/19/2018 16:07:10 - 01/19/2018 17:46:50 (01:39:40) Drive   83% ->  62%  63.4 mi  40.0 mph  xxx mph   31547.1 mi                  18.9 kWh   6.4 Ah   55.4 Ah   297 Wh/mi
01/19/2018 18:14:18 - 01/19/2018 20:28:45 (02:14:27) Drive   60% ->  11% 112.6 mi  54.4 mph  xxx mph   31659.7 mi                  38.6 kWh   5.8 Ah   112.3 Ah   343 Wh/mi
01/19/2018 20:28:46 - 01/19/2018 20:54:21 (00:25:35) Charge  11% ->  11%                                           243V   7A of  7A  0.7 kWh   0.0 Ah    0.0 Ah
01/19/2018 20:54:43 - 01/20/2018 03:25:52 (06:31:09) Charge  11% ->  41%                                           234V  20A of 30A 29.3 kWh   0.0 Ah    0.0 Ah
 
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My car was parked for 3 days in the garage and with the recent sub zero temperatures we have been having, the battery was down to 0°C.

I wanted to charge last night so I switched the plug on and expected to go to bed. It started pre-heating the battery, as I have seen before, but this time it was much longer before it actually started charging. The battery was up to 16°C before I gave up watching and went to sleep, but I can see from OVMS that it was 1h45m before it actually went into charging mode. This seems much higher than I remember - is it a 3.0 thing?
 
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My car was parked for 3 days in the garage and with the recent sub zero temperatures we have been having, the battery was down to 0°C.

I wanted to charge last night so I switched the plug on and expected to go to bed. It started pre-heating the battery, as I have seen before, but this time it was much longer before it actually started charging. The battery was up to 16°C before I gave up watching and went to sleep, but I can see from OVMS that it was 1h45m before it actually went into charging mode. This seems much higher than I remember - is it a 3.0 thing?

Hi David. As I just txted u, I had 0% unknown range, and did a charge one day after the London snow melted. I have 2.5 battery.

It took 1hr to warm up. So I think 1h45min for a bigger 3.0, in the previous day full on snow cold, seems reasonable?
 
Does anyone know the costs for the 3.0 upgrade?
I remember in USA it used to be $ 29.000 which is now approximately € 25.000
I got a quote today from Tesla NL of € 35.200 excluding installement
Is it this expensive in all countries in Europe?
If UK is £ 26.000 I can better get installement done in UK
Or Germany? What are prices there?
 
This means I save 15000 USD minus shipping if I ship my Roadster to USA.
I have seen different prices per country in Europe probably depending on importtax and VAT so I am interested to learn if ordering from another country like UK of Germany brings me a cheaper pack.
Price in NL is 15000 USD higher than price in USA.