I was passing a destination charger earlier today so I tried plugging in using the Can.
Short answer is it doesn't work and throws a pilot signal error.
Short answer is it doesn't work and throws a pilot signal error.
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The European Model Ss have 3 phase 22kW charging which means the Roadster would normally see one phase for 32A, 7kW.
However there was already a rumour that Tesla destination chargers were doing something non-standard in the handshake phase to exclude other cars and this seems to confirm it.
There is something funky about the way Tesla is doing the pilot signal on these destination chargers to limit them to Model S/X and not other makes. In doing so, the Roadster is collateral damage.
Is there any news on this? Can the Roadster use the destination chargers from Tesla?Let me know if you need more UK data: there's a couple of Tesla destination charger 30 minutes from me that I can get access to.they are brand new as of 3 weeks ago.
Wow, indeed. Since I doubt the deployed EVSEs will get updated, are (can) they put a fix into the Roadster firmware to work around it? This is a really big deal, as ViperDoc says.Wow Henry, that really sucks. So the new Model S destination chargers lock the Roadsters out of the equation, and you won't know it until you get there or you get someone at the destination to send you a photo of the charger to how it stores the connector? That is just bad...
Yes there is news on this. There was a communications oversight within Tesla that resulted in the new destination chargers being incompatible with Roadsters. Tesla is now aware of the problem and is working on a solution. They haven't committed to a time frame for when it will be completed but they said they'd like to do it right away. Not all the new Destination chargers have this problem, but most of them do.
You can tell if it's one of the new chargers if the cable connector has a place to be stored in the side of the HPWC. The older HPWCs, which are supposedly more Roadster friendly, store the connector in a separate plastic cable hanger.
This information applies to Destination chargers in all regions, including North America, Europe, Asia/HK, etc.
I just found a photo of the Destination Charger I first tried to use on September 16th and discovered nothing happened when I plugged it into my Roadster using my CAN S/R (see photo shown below, it is the new style HPWC). I was quite surprised, as was the proprietor of the establishment I was staying at, The Old West Inn in Willits, California. His HPWC and the Clipper Creek J1772 unit he had were newly installed and I was the first EV to try to use them. I ended up charging from the Clipper Creek using my Tesla Roadster J1772 adaptor and it worked fine (fortunately as I was 150 miles from home and EV charging is pretty scarce in Willits!). I told the proprietor to contact Tesla about his new HPWC. I followed up with him a few weeks ago and he said Tesla was shipping him a new HPWC. I was at his establishment for the second time on October 21st. The new HPWC had not arrived yet so again I used the Clipper Creek. The new HPWC has now arrived at his hotel but is not installed yet. However, now I know that probably the next time I am there it still won't work for me. I hope Tesla fixes this soon, but there will be a lot of HPWCs out there that may never be fixed if the destination doesn't take the initiative to do so.Henry, thanks for that information. Unnerving. I may have come across one of those incompatible Destination Chargers recently.
Yes, a photo will ID the charger so you can determine if it will work or not, or you can ask the destination to look at the charger and tell you if the cable end can be inserted into the side of the charger (new style) or if it simply hangs free (old style)So the new Model S destination chargers lock the Roadsters out of the equation, and you won't know it until you get there or you get someone at the destination to send you a photo of the charger to how it stores the connector?
Have you tried charging her Roadster using your new HPWC? Please let us know...I just installed one of those at home FOR my wife's Roadster. I wonder when they'll have a fix
Yes, a photo will ID the charger so you can determine if it will work or not, or you can ask the destination to look at the charger and tell you if the cable end can be inserted into the side of the charger (new style) or if it simply hangs free (old style)
Have you tried charging her Roadster using your new HPWC? Please let us know...
Just curious... Does anyone know what the incompatibility is?Yes there is news on this. There was a communications oversight within Tesla that resulted in the new destination chargers being incompatible with Roadsters.