Rumor: HW4 can support up to 13 cameras

[AndrewZ]

Massive changes pretty much across the board, literally too, and who knows what else is coming that Green isn't yet aware of.

There will be no backwards functionality with HW3, it's done.

 

[YNoVA]

”there are seemingly 3 bumper cameras. one up front the other two are left and right so in the corners somewhere.”

Oh man my 2022 MYP is a dinosaur now

 

[scurtis]

My m3p was made in Nov. 2022. It comes w/ the new cameras. Interestingly, my mcu failed nearly immediately after I received it. They replaced the mcu with the current hw3 mcu (confirmed w/ serial). So although I think I have the new side cameras, don't believe it has hw4 hardware. The pillar cameras appear to be the older design.

 

[DanCar]

HW4 confirmed by ev-cpo.com

EV-CPO.com CPO Consolidator support thread

Ok, you can now select/search/filter for AP HW Ver 4 for MS and MX. If/when it's released for M3/MY I can update those search criteria. Thanks to @verygreen for the option code info!

teslamotorsclub.com

 

[JHCCAZ]

Oh man my 2022 MYP is a dinosaur now

Teslasaurus Obsoleticus

 

[thewishmaster]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1630815370675384320

Is that rightmost camera the narrow cam?

 

[DanCar]

HW4 ships and it doesn't work.

https://www.reddit.com/r/teslamotors/comments/11jkh1z

 

[EVNow]

Oh man my 2022 MYP is a dinosaur now

OTOH, I feel my '18 Model 3 is brand new

 

[tmoz]

And I'm still not ready to update my 2015 model S. HW4, higher power charging, and other enhancements are pushing me closer. When V2G/V2H come out in 2025, I will have no choice but to succumb.

 

[Knightshade]

HW4 ships and it doesn't work.

https://www.reddit.com/r/teslamotors/comments/11l56hm

 

[Zane Liu]

I know HW4 isn’t upgradeable but I do wonder if just the higher res cameras or the radar will be user upgradeable via purchase. I’d enjoy that

 

[Knightshade]

I know HW4 isn’t upgradeable but I do wonder if just the higher res cameras or the radar will be user upgradeable via purchase. I’d enjoy that

Not sure how that'd make any sense.

The connections are different, and without the HW4 computer there'd be nothing for them to plug into (and likely nothing for them to do even if you invented your own wiring harness to connect them to HW3 since they'd be providing different info than HW3 is looking for)

 

[Dewg]

If this is legit HW4 that's been released, can we close this thread, or at least change the title?

 

[thewishmaster]

If this is legit HW4 that's been released, can we close this thread, or at least change the title?

Probably not until we close the loop on the extra cameras, which are rumored to come later

 

[DanCar]

Probably not until we close the loop on the extra cameras, which are rumored to come later

Cyber truck, then gen 3 platform will have them?

 

[Krash]

I edited the title since the HW4 is out but not the new cameras.

 

[thewishmaster]

Cyber truck, then gen 3 platform will have them?

That, plus semi truck. With teslascope's somewhat spotty record I'm not sure I believe it, but they suggest that additional cameras will come to all existing cars. That upcoming Model 3 refresh would be one of the first opportunities if I had to guess.

 

[thewishmaster]

Some possible confirmation of additional camera locations, at least on the upcoming model 3 refresh:

Exclusive: Tesla's Model 3, Project Highland Exposed: What’s Changing

Discover the latest updates on Tesla's Model 3 Highland, including changes to its design, technology, and production efficiency.

www.notateslaapp.com

Doesn’t add too much but suggests there’s a new bumper cam coming to the front and 2 new front facing cameras integrated in the repeaters for a total of 11.

Not clear if there will be 2 more cameras in the rear to add up to 13 but I guess we’ll see in a quarter or so.

 

[stopcrazypp]

Some possible confirmation of additional camera locations, at least on the upcoming model 3 refresh:

Exclusive: Tesla's Model 3, Project Highland Exposed: What’s Changing

Discover the latest updates on Tesla's Model 3 Highland, including changes to its design, technology, and production efficiency.

www.notateslaapp.com

Doesn’t add too much but suggests there’s a new bumper cam coming to the front and 2 new front facing cameras integrated in the repeaters for a total of 11.

Not clear if there will be 2 more cameras in the rear to add up to 13 but I guess we’ll see in a quarter or so.

From article:
"The fender camera housing will now contain two cameras each. One will face backward as it does now, while the other will point in the other direction. It's not clear how the new camera will be oriented, but we speculate that they will be aimed off to the side to give the car a better view at certain intersections."

If this does happened, I would say to a bunch of people: I told you so.

HW4 leaked by @greentheonly - new cameras coming?

Yup Tesla copying Mobileye yet AGAIN and going with their 11 camera setup. Well, 4 corners, 4 low sides, 2 windshield, and 1 interior is 11. Hardly copying anyone when that's just the practical choice for best detecting cross traffic and low things when parking.

teslamotorsclub.com

 

[jabloomf1230]

From article:
"The fender camera housing will now contain two cameras each. One will face backward as it does now, while the other will point in the other direction. It's not clear how the new camera will be oriented, but we speculate that they will be aimed off to the side to give the car a better view at certain intersections."

If this does happened, I would say to a bunch of people: I told you so.

HW4 leaked by @greentheonly - new cameras coming?

Yup Tesla copying Mobileye yet AGAIN and going with their 11 camera setup. Well, 4 corners, 4 low sides, 2 windshield, and 1 interior is 11. Hardly copying anyone when that's just the practical choice for best detecting cross traffic and low things when parking.

teslamotorsclub.com

Tesla's engineers must have decided that a side-facing camera integrated into the headlight assembly was just too prone to being obstructed by rain, snow and mud. A side-facing camera added to the repeater is better than nothing, but it doesn't seem like such positioning will significantly improve decision making when there's high speed cross traffic.