Short-Term TSLA Price Movements - 2016

[larmor]

That should move the SP up, way up! I'm sure that Tesla will be able to reduce the price in the future but that doesn't matter.

This is huge! The only comparisons that come to mind are the iPhone and the M3!


I hope they take deposits on the roof, because I want to reserve one, and I think that's they only way I'll get it fairly soon.

Regarding PW 2, is it limited to solar city, or can other residental solar companies incorporate?

 

[Krugerrand]

Earth will be fine once it has shrugged off the humans. In geologic time it won't matter at all. There will just be a layer of plastic in the geologic record to mark our existence.

HUMANS will even survive global warming. There are too many of us and we are very adaptable.

Civilization is what is at risk.

You may be right. Or not. Regardless, ICE cars are prematurely killing people and the planet as we know it. Of course when man becomes extinct because of the next ice age, we won't care what's going on on the planet.

 

[Krugerrand]

I would add a common definition of Wisdom: the proper use of intelligence. A sign of it: what I've most admired in people, how quickly they can change their minds once new evidence requires it. A lot of these contribute to this thread.

Suck up.

 

[esk8mw]

An overlooked aspect here is the vote percentage - 85%. That's quite high for a company as controversial as Tesla buying an even more controversial company days after a worst case scenario election from a political risk point of view. This indicates a high level of confidence in the longs - primarily institutions - invested in Tesla. I expect this strong vote of confidence to give short term strength to the SP. If the institutions with the best knowledge of the merger details are on board, it stands to reason that it's a value-creating acquisition and money should flow in to Tesla.

 

[MP3Mike]

Regarding PW 2, is it limited to solar city, or can other residental solar companies incorporate?

There is no more Solar City, just Tesla. (Well in a few days there will be no more Solar City.)

On top of that PowerWall really has nothing to do with Solar. Sure it works great with a Solar system, but you don't need one to use it. And I think it can work with any Solar system.

 

[Papafox]

Regarding the cost of solar roofs and my theory that incentives explained the lower cost of the Tesla product ...

He specifically said (~19:40) cost (he thinks) will be about equal or less before factoring in the fact that the roof tiles produce electricity "so subsidies are irrelevant" (paraphrasing).

I'm sorry Mitch, you're gonna have to just take a number and get in line behind Elon Musk and @tentonine in correcting me on this statement. It really is a bitch when Elon himself clarifies his statement later in the broadcast to specifically shoot down the theory I just proudly voiced on the forum. Oh well.

 

[Papafox]

An overlooked aspect here is the vote percentage - 85%. That's quite high for a company as controversial as Tesla buying an even more controversial company days after a worst case scenario election from a political risk point of view. This indicates a high level of confidence in the longs - primarily institutions - invested in Tesla. I expect this strong vote of confidence to give short term strength to the SP. If the institutions with the best knowledge of the merger details are on board, it stands to reason that it's a value-creating acquisition and money should flow in to Tesla.

I agree that the 85% approval rate will help the SP. Part of the reason for my confidence is that there just aren't many shareholders left who will sell because of today's vote, and the high number takes a lot of wind out of the sails of Tesla's critics.

The second statement that should positively influence the stock is the issue about the solar roof being no more expensive than a "regular" roof. This is a cost statement that Elon specifically avoided at the solar roof event and something he kept to be let out of its cage today. Suddenly, the Buffalo factory's solar roof looks at least twice as extraordinary when the price point is considered.

Tomorrow should be a good day for TSLA.

 

[sundaymorning]

Based on simple observations of what Elon has stated all along, he's got the support from institutions. This puts a big hole in the short thesis that it would be difficult for Tesla to raise money. Ever heard of a $10 billion company on ludicrous growth having problems raising money? C'mon shorts.. You gotta give me something better than that to drop my TSLA.

So in the end, as it turns out, Elon was telling the truth after all, when has he ever lied to us? Never..

 

[mmd]

Elon never mentions solutions for people in the Southwest. Tile roofs? What they?

How about a flat roof solution, Elon? Guess we'll be waiting a very long time before they have simulated gravel pieces which are actually tiny solar collectors

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Try the sun cube. The product was perfect for placing on on flat roofs
Sun Cube Saga - Today Tonight Adelaide

Regarding the solar roof pricing: I'd just like to know the numerical price range than these comparisons with some unnamed normal roof, then adding "probably". Which price is the uncertain part? The cost of the normal roof or the cost of the solar roof?

Then, there is the puzzling part, that in 2 weeks, the solar roofs showcased in Hollywood couldn't be made functional. May be, install will get quicker and easier as Tesla gains more experience installing these.

 

[Jonathan Hewitt]

Psychopathic career TSLA short **name redacted** gets cryogenically frozen for his crimes of spreading FUD. He is woken up decades later for a parole hearing and slowly realizes the world is not what it used to be.

 

[3Victoria]

Here is a good summary of roof types, costs, etc.
Types of Roofing Material | The House Designers

 

[racer26]

Here is a good summary of roof types, costs, etc.
Types of Roofing Material | The House Designers

That's the other big point - asphalt shingles don't do the environment any favours. If you want to continue pushing for sustainable everything, eliminating asphalt shingles is the obvious step.

 

[ggr]

Are these numbers anywhere near realistic ?
How Fast Must Lithium Ion Batteries Fall For Tesla's Model 3 To Be Viable?

Model S battery cost $27K
Model 3 battery cost $9K

Author says battery cost has to drop 30% each year for the next 3 years for Model3 to make economic sense!

I don't think he makes any sense... but what do I know ?

He forgets that the price started falling three years ago.

 

[SunCatcher]

You can just install regular ol' ugly solar panels ... nobody sees them anyway.

Who you calling ugly?

(I love my 40 solar rooftop panels, and think they are beautiful… )

 

[stealthology]

An overlooked aspect here is the vote percentage - 85%. That's quite high for a company as controversial as Tesla buying an even more controversial company days after a worst case scenario election from a political risk point of view. This indicates a high level of confidence in the longs - primarily institutions - invested in Tesla. I expect this strong vote of confidence to give short term strength to the SP. If the institutions with the best knowledge of the merger details are on board, it stands to reason that it's a value-creating acquisition and money should flow in to Tesla.

Agree. I think the whole Trump = insta-market tumble was more of a fear of the unknown. I think people are realizing that he'll play nice for the most part. Damnit Carl..

Call me paranoid from all my mental scar tissue from the past few months, but I'm not gonna celebrate until tomorrow once hedgies and that lovely relationship between analysts and Elon come forth.

 

[Krugerrand]

QED.

Not only a compliance car, a PR stint as well. Pretty divergent goals for the members of the "same team"...

From the WSJ:

GM has said its $30,000 Bolt will be on sale in the 2016 calendar year, a target that qualifies the car for certain product awards and allows the company to say its car hits the market well in advance of a rival product being developed by Tesla Motors Inc. GM spokeswoman Michelle Malcho said Thursday the car is expected to meet high interest, but will be offered in limited quantities in 2017.

*Rolled eyes stuck at the back of my head* emoticon.

 

[sundaymorning]

So with the Bolt being a no show till Spring of 2017, what's going to stop Tesla from eating up more of Chevy's lunch? Maybe the 3 will serve the Bolt like the S served the ELR (now discontinued..). Chevy better not delay any further, otherwise they're going to make Motor T. look like fools in 2017.. Oh, wait, that already happened the minute MT accepted those Ad $$$ from Chevy.

The interest in the Bolt is high alright, just how (high) would you have to be in order to choose the Bolt over the 3? Pretty damn high...

 

[CALGARYARSENAL]

That's the other big point - asphalt shingles don't do the environment any favours. If you want to continue pushing for sustainable everything, eliminating asphalt shingles is the obvious step.

Millions of pounds of asphalt shingles are dumped into Calgary landfills every summer due to hailstorms.

 

[SunCatcher]

Millions of pounds of asphalt shingles are dumped into Calgary landfills every summer due to hailstorms.

That's called "putting oil back into the earth, where it came from".

It would be nice if we could just leave it there in the first place. It will happen.

 

[3Victoria]

Hmmm, that brings up the subject of insurancd .... Tesla roofs may very well reduce your house insurance. For example, if they can weather hail, then insurance companies will offer cheaper insurance (is hail damage covered?).

Total life-time cost for a Tesla roof may be very compelling.