Robertj
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On the deal I got in the minimum was higher at $500k
It appears that every May/June there is an offering for staff to liquidate holdings
It appears that every May/June there is an offering for staff to liquidate holdings
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Thx. Seems like it was $77/share in December, so 12.6% increase.$86.75 per share
???The only revenue generating streams are customer/Govt satellite launches and Starlink. The former has an upper bound which I think SpaceX has already reached. The later one is expected to be $10B/year ?
All the Mars and Moon missions I guess are huge expenses with ZERO revenue prospects? If I were a stockholder, I would ask them to ditch Mars and Moon missions.
@ElectromanThe only revenue generating streams are customer/Govt satellite launches and Starlink. The former has an upper bound which I think SpaceX has already reached. The later one is expected to be $10B/year ?
All the Mars and Moon missions I guess are huge expenses with ZERO revenue prospects? If I were a stockholder, I would ask them to ditch Mars and Moon missions.
Criminy, what time horizon are you thinking of before SpaceX is going to be profitable in this venture?with the lunar bases capable of a maglev/railgun launch system and virtually frictionless low escape velocity
The Moon is not a planet. Nevertheless, it does have resources, though I don’t know how to put an economic value on them since the technology to exploit them does not yet exist. Same for Mars.the resources of 2 complete planets, Moon & Mars
@JB47394Criminy, what time horizon are you thinking of before SpaceX is going to be profitable in this venture?
to make humanity Multiplanetary
Considering what we're doing to the one we've got, I think we owe it to the rest of the universe to not follow through on that 'goal'
That's been a split in society for as long as we've had space exploration; fix the planet vs explore the universe. The two factions have been debating back and forth on that one since the founding of NASA. I find it pretty awesome that, as of this moment, you got two upvotes and two downvotes.Two downvotes - I'd be interested to know why
Well, for starters the other planets in the solar system are just dead rocks without an eco-system, we're not going to make them worse than they already are, no matter what we do to them. In fact if we do build colonies on them, it means we brought Earth's eco-system to these planets, which would make them better by definition.Two downvotes - I'd be interested to know why
OT somewhatTwo downvotes - I'd be interested to know why
Not really OT, since this is the fundamental premise of Elon's decision to build SpaceX. We tend to forget that because we are occupied with making money from Starlink and Falcon launches, which do appear to be seriously profitable. Were we to ignore the founding premise for SpaceX we would also fail to understand the share value potential. In short, however we choose to view it SpaceX is the longest of long plays at it's raison d'être.OT somewhat
@EVer Hopeful
since you ask
did you not watch that short movie?
It should be intuitively obvious to many afterwards
nothing lasts forever
Do you not read Science Fiction? (I have for about 65+ years)
What is the name of this specific forum?
We seem to be on the edge of a potential extinction event, exacerbated by our actions
btw, not to even forget
Chicxulub, (smaller than Vredefoort crater) and (pesky dinosaurs, today is fried chicken day in the United States)
the meteor that created the Chesapeak Bay and (depressed the land near mouth of bay)
the Vredefoort ring in Africa (250km dia) and (impactor was 20-25km diameter going 15-20kps)
Supervolcano in western United states and, etc.
Tunguska (tiny airburst ?15kiloton?)
we live at the bottom of a narrow gravity well, and rocks continuously fall down it, mostly dust, but occasionally bigger
(I'm not sure if I should delete this before my 1 hour grace period as it's a way bit off topic)
And as Elon has pointed out many times; we can do both. We can create a sustainable economy on Earth that preserves the biosphere and we can establish a self-sustaining colony on Mars as a first step towards exploring the universe.That's been a split in society for as long as we've had space exploration; fix the planet vs explore the universe.
That sounds profound but it’s a meaningless statement; obviously nothing lasts forever, not even the universe as near as we can determine with our current tools. So what? As humans, what matters to us is the timescale of our civilization, which at the moment is an nearly infinitesimal moment in time since the Big Bang.It should be intuitively obvious to many afterwards
nothing lasts forever
Bang the drum, but the bulk of the population doesn't seem to appreciate that. If my cause isn't being given top priority then it isn't being given enough emphasis. The money spent on other causes should be spent on my cause so as to accelerate it - especially those causes which stand at odds to mine.And as Elon has pointed out many times; we can do both.