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Actually, this is very likely not true, though you are right it is possible EU's influence on this is so far limited to publicly funded EV chargers. It is my understanding that certain countries already place or plan to place limitations on what kind of plugs can be used in EV charging, new private installations included. Germany? Spain?
EV charging stations require planning, building, electrical etc. permissions and jurisdictions certainly can and do place limitations - for sake of the the public/common good - on what kind of electrical installations can be used. So, most definitely Tesla's connectors can be legislated at least in Europe where commonly and traditionally the governments have had a strong hold on such things...
Will it be legislated and how commonly, is harder to say. For electrical waste purposes EU tried to legislate even what kind of charging plugs all mobile phones should have, but that effort was eventually neutered in the EU parliament due to the strong Apple lobby...
After some googling, I'm pretty sure this is the final requirement issued by the EU:
http://www.charinev.org/fileadmin/D...ons/022_Doc_Directive_CELEX_32014L0094_EN.pdf
The three parts you'll want to read are (33) on page five, 4 on page 12, and 1.2 on page 20.
It looks to me like Tesla would be compliant if they did something similar to their Destination network in the US - installed a bunch of the current Superchargers at a location and then put a single off the shelf 50kW CCS charger in at the same time.
The document is very explicit that retrofitting existing units is not required.
Any current SC location is exempt.And soon Superchargers will be forced by law to offer full CCS in the EU.
As I understood, there must be one CCS plug per one charger. Tesla currently has 2 stalls (usually, not always) per charger.installed a bunch of the current Superchargers at a location and then put a single off the shelf 50kW CCS charger in at the same time.
Be aware that they are talking about "Recharging points". One interpretation of this is that for each supercharger plug, it may be a Chademo plug, maybe even a Type2 AC plug or some other plugs, but it has to be a CCS DC plug.It looks to me like Tesla would be compliant if they did something similar to their Destination network in the US - installed a bunch of the current Superchargers at a location and then put a single off the shelf 50kW CCS charger in at the same time.
(3) Allow public charging by other vehicles with "reasonable" pricing.
Page 12.9. All recharging points accessible to the public shall also provide for the possibility for electric vehicle users to recharge on an ad hoc basis without entering into a contract with the electricity supplier or operator concerned.
10. Member States shall ensure that prices charged by the operators of recharging points accessible to the public are reasonable, easily and clearly comparable, transparent and non-discriminatory.
CCS is the DC charging alternative. If it was an AC only station (destination charger?), you would have been correct - they just need one Type2/mennekes plug. But as Tesla uses Type2 for AC in EU/EEA, it will not affect them at all. But for an DC (re)charging point, they have to have the DC standard alternative - CCS. See page 20 #1,2 as Saghost pointed to when he linked the document.Tesla uses mennekes for dc charging in many markets, the combo plug is not required
1) When the rest of the world really start to act on EVs, and it certainly looks like they will, their progress will eventually be exponential.
2) You are assuming Tesla will fight this, instead of embracing it.
In fact, in context of a 'new plug' I wouldn't be surprised if today's CCS is OBE by some other standard, even before the CS buildout is complete. In 10 years, will we be satisfied with 350kw? I bet not.
I neither said or intimated that. Tesla will do what is best for Tesla first, and the world at large a close second. What I do assume is that Tesla does not need to jump off the fence yet. It seems feasible for Tesla to offer both native and CCS ports on their car for some time and wait to see how the reality of CCS and the reality of technological progress plays out.
To wit, you're suggesting Tesla give up their record player and go all in for CCS's 8-track.
Good point - I'm from the UK!Thanks for the note! That is probably @cizUK the opposite side, though, not necessarily the charge port hole itself. Unless they are planning on putting charge port on either side or even both sides...
But yes, makes sense the opening is same on the other side. It makes sense for them to leave room for future changes even if nothing changes immediately.
Good point - I'm from the UK!
Ermmm... oh yeah they are on the left...RHD Teslas now have the charge ports on the right? They did not use to...
This is obviously where the bottle opener goes. Have a beer while you charge!Here's a new picture of the charge port hole
It seems to be open the full width, but divided half way along by attachments
So it could take the CCS and Tesla connector in that hole
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Here's a new picture of the charge port hole
It seems to be open the full width, but divided half way along by attachments
So it could take the CCS and Tesla connector in that hole
View attachment 227256
Would the same charge port handle a much faster charge rate? How much power can they push through that thing safely?it would be silly for Tesla to release anything except their existing charge port.